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gordon said:
James,
I don't follow you. Are you saying it is better to have lots of people supply their opinion on the facts from Nominets side and not the actual facts?

Facts are not opinions and vice versa. Facts are what happens. How I was told a procedure is supposed to work and the comments on this forum are at odds... and that's a fact. There were incidentally, no facts in the Jay Daley comment you cited. It was a statement of generality and was not specific. Facts are specific.

gordon said:
I think I must not have been clear. Where did I say they didn't have a right to question?

When one makes a statement like; "Perhaps statements on operational procedures should be left to Nominet staff to ensure the answer is correct and up to date?" the inference is reasonably clear. If you did not mean to infer what that statement inferred, that's a different matter.

gordon said:
James, that is neither what I said nor meant. Please read what I say not what you think I say.

Gordon

Then please be clearer in what you suggest in future; it will save time later (and I can do what apd suggested and get a life beyond worrying what people mean or don't mean or what Nominet does or doesn't mean).

Regards
James Conaghan
 
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You weren't trying to reveal someone elses name behind their nickname were you JAC?

-aqls-
 
In the public interest

aqls said:
You weren't trying to reveal someone elses name behind their nickname were you JAC?

-aqls-

aqls

I don't know if you are being serious or sardonic, but it seems perfectly reasonable to me that if someone is posting from the .UK Registry that openness and transparency should be paramount; and if Jay Daley and Ed Philips are open and transparent, then I think anyone else posting from Nominet should be so too.

Incidentally, I don't yet know if it is the Gordon from Nominet who is posting or not; but it doesn't change my stance on openness and transparency.

Regards
James Conaghan
 
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I was being quite serious thank you.

If someone wants to remain anonymous then let them.

Quote forum rules:
You will not violate a persons privacy by publishing against someone's will information that is private and personal.

-aqls-
 
In the public interest 2...

aqls said:
I was being quite serious thank you.

If someone wants to remain anonymous then let them.

Quote forum rules:
You will not violate a persons privacy by publishing against someone's will information that is private and personal.

-aqls-

This is a contradiction in terms when you consider Nominet's own policy of being open and transparent. You can start here. Third down reads; "We ensure that every member of staff is responsible and accountable for the quality of their work."

You cannot be accountable for the quality of anything unless you are open and transparent. That is why I headed my last message "In the public interest".

Regards
James Conaghan
 
If you make public named accusations on this board, you are putting admin at risk of being caught in the middle of your actions.

If I were admin, I would have warned or even banned you by now ;) !

-aqls-
 
Your are confusing two issues...

aqls said:
If you make public named accusations on this board, you are putting admin at risk of being caught in the middle of your actions.

If I were admin, I would have warned or even banned you by now ;) !

-aqls-

Well, then perhaps we need Admin to join in the discussion. IMO you are confusing two issues.
(1) this forum's rules;
(2) Nominet's own self-proclaimed policy on openness and transparency.

It seems a fair assumption to me that most people on this forum would want Nominet to be open, transparent and accountable.... but if they all tell me (like you) that I've misunderstood their various standpoints on the issue, I am happy to put my hands up and say sorry!

Regards
James Conaghan
 
Jac said:
Well, then perhaps we need Admin to join in the discussion. IMO you are confusing two issues.
(1) this forum's rules;
(2) Nominet's own self-proclaimed policy on openness and transparency.

It seems a fair assumption to me that most people on this forum would want Nominet to be open, transparent and accountable.... but if they all tell me (like you) that I've misunderstood their various standpoints on the issue, I am happy to put my hands up and say sorry!

Regards
James Conaghan

Jac

Then the question would need to be asked as to whether this is a Nominet arena or not

OB
 
Right back at you

olebean said:
Jac

Then the question would need to be asked as to whether this is a Nominet arena or not

OB

When I first came onto this forum, there were all sorts of questions flying around where people were asking stuff like "is anyone from Nominet reading this" or if Nominet could answer this and that.

I don't mind either way, but I was under the impression most of the people on Acorn were looking for feedback from the PAB and/or Nominet? If I'm wrong I'm wrong and it'll be goodnight from him and goodnight from him too.

Regards
James Conaghan
 
Jac said:
I don't mind either way, but I was under the impression most of the people on Acorn were looking for feedback from the PAB and/or Nominet? If I'm wrong I'm wrong and it'll be goodnight from him and goodnight from him too.
...Actually this raises an interesting question - Why has the feedback from Nominet Staff on this forum absolutely crashed to almost nothing? :???:

It seems as though there was a lot of activity up till the 31st March, then generally speaking it's mostly disappeared. :roll:

Nominet Internal Memo sent out on that day maybe. ;)
 
Jac said:
When I first came onto this forum, there were all sorts of questions flying around where people were asking stuff like "is anyone from Nominet reading this" or if Nominet could answer this and that.

I don't mind either way, but I was under the impression most of the people on Acorn were looking for feedback from the PAB and/or Nominet? If I'm wrong I'm wrong and it'll be goodnight from him and goodnight from him too.

Regards
James Conaghan

JAC,

I think it would be a great shame to not have Nominet giving and receiving input on to the forum. As long as the forum remains professional and doesnt end up just as most other forums, i.e. adults acting like children, then it will be ok,

Regards

DG
 
Jac said:
......... If I'm wrong I'm wrong and it'll be goodnight from him and goodnight from him too.

Regards
James Conaghan

Don't let the door hit you.
 
texidriver said:
Don't let the door hit you.

Good grief, how very churlish. For what it's worth I always read JAC's posts with a great deal of interest, and would be disappointed if he stopped writing here.

Thanks,

P.
 
philipp said:
Good grief, how very churlish. For what it's worth I always read JAC's posts with a great deal of interest, and would be disappointed if he stopped writing here.

Thanks,

P.
Ditto - even on the rare occaisions when we don't agree! ;)
 
Beasty said:
Ditto - even on the rare occaisions when we don't agree! ;)

I'm sorry, I couldn't possibly agree with this statement. :cool:

Regards
James Conaghan
 
Blimey, I go to a conference for a few days and look what happens! Well after reading the last ten pages I've almost lost the will to live but I will have a go

1. The idea of a five day grace period to correct your details is certainly something we can consider - I will raise it internally.

2. Yes we have thought about how the WHOIS is used. In fact we have thought about it in a public way and in the most extraordinary detail. This has all taken place in the Policy Advisory Board meetings and details are on our web site. If you wish to reopen some of those discussions then please contact a PAB member (such as Jac ;-))

3. Yes we do send transfer forms to someone other than the registrant, or to someone who we believe may be the registrant at a different address. We have done this for years and is a clear part of our operational policy.

4. This one is very, very important so please remember this one as I find myself repeating it regularly. Nominet is a *very* broad church, which means that we have an enormous range of customers (both tag holders and registrants) with a very wide range of views and requirements. I say this with particular regard to the registrant transfer process. Just the other week I was at one of our member lunches (book now!) and almost every tag hlder there said 'do not change the transfer process to a fast online system, the paper based one is exactly the right way to do it'.

Now, don't mistake what I am saying as agreeing with this. My point is that this is diametrically opposite to the POV on this forum and for us to move from our current system to one that satisfies everyone is tricky. We have to consider things such as differentiated services (i.e. you pay more to only allow transfer by paper/DNA sample), lock states to prevent it being spoofed and the security issues of an online system for all registrants. But this is an area we are actively examining.

5. I haven't been on this forum for a while because of a combination of holidays, hard work and days out of the office. The long and lovely summer evening don't help either. Nothing sinister. Please remember you can always email me direct - [email protected].

6. On the anonymity point - I have always said that I find it difficult to understand how people who want us to accept them as professional business people can hide behind anonymity.

Now, for those of you who hang on my every word - I've got a long meeting tomorrow and so may not join this thread again until Thursday. Let's just hope I don't have another ten pages to read. Please. No really, please.
 
Hi Jay,

Good to have you back :)

The specific problem I have is that my domains are at risk.

It is very, very easy to transfer someone else's domain to my account (and vice versa). It is a situation that needs addressing urgently.

One of the ways to address this problem is to avoid sending details to other addresses, it is not the only solution. Others include locking domains etc.

I am terrified of losing my domains by such an easy fraud, and would appreciate someone looking at this security loophole long and hard.

(I don't care if I am not seen as a "professional business person" I value my current pseudo anonymity.)

end.

-aqls-
 
aqls said:
It is very, very easy to transfer someone else's domain to my account (and vice versa). It is a situation that needs addressing urgently.

What makes you say that? Email me details if you prefer.
 
Why send out a letter at all ? it is so 1990s.

Why not send a link to the admin email address of the domain and get them to approve the transfer.

i.e. .com auto-verification transfer
 
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