EU Referendum

[websaway]

That was George Carlin, not Mark Twain (apparently quotes are more often misattributed to Twain than any other source).

I would tend to agree but this debate is too important to allow you to shout everyone down

That was just the frustration of thinking you were losing.
It just shows though , we can even argue about what Mark Twain said and how he phrased it. What chance of agreeing on the present.
Good luck with your views, they are not mine, but we are still ALMOST all entitled to our own.

 

[websaway]

185 pages in, I'm sure many of us are now thinking that.

I hope I have not let down the thousands who died to preserve our democracy .
One can only do what one can do.
It's been fun and some lasted the full course.
Good luck to everyone whatever your views, belief and the liberty to express it is precious..

 

[dazc]

Spain does indeed have 50% youth unemployment, so why do you think there aren't more Spanish immigrants here?

Maybe they know something you don't?

 

[websaway]

One last thing.
When we were first thinking about joining the Deutsche Mark, the economic arguments were all in favour of us joining. I did not want to lose the pound, I believed it was an intrinsic part of British life and if we lost it we would lose part of our Identity.
The reason I don't want further integration into a united states of Europe is similar. Put up all the economic arguments, they don't stand up to losing the intrinsic things of our long history of self rule. It's too big a trade off.

 

[BREWSTERS]

You stated some facts about the war (no argument there), then you leapt to saying that Germany had adopted a secret plan to take over the world by stealth (bullshit).

BS? Is that you're response? If you're so cocksure it's BS, how about throwing in a few reasons why you think that? How do you think the EU got started and by whom?

Your conspiracy theory on Jo Cox is really beyond the pale. You've stated that the elderly gentleman who came to her aid died years ago. This has been shown to be bullshit concocted by someone who discovered someone of the same name had died a few years ago - even the conspiracy theory sites have withdrawn it. I think this demonstrates your ability to discern fact from fiction.

You stated earlier that 'demonstrably' that was wrong, but twice you've failed to demonstrate it. Either do so please or stop repeating it.

Besides, that's just one aspect of many which points to a false flag.

 

[AlistairM]

Just been and put my X in the Leave box.

 

[VSC]

Just been and put my X in the Remain box.
Now having some croissant for breakfast.

 

[denchomsky]

Remember. FEAR is always used to pass laws that take away Civil Liberty, Privacy, Democracy, Free thought, Free speech, The Right to Protest, etc etc etc.
don't let FEAR be the reason you vote IN or OUT.

 

[AlistairM]

I'm having a full English.

 

[bonusmedia]

I hope I have not let down the thousands who died to preserve our democracy .
One can only do what one can do.
It's been fun and some lasted the full course.
Good luck to everyone whatever your views, belief and the liberty to express it is precious..

Me too - or the millions who died to save Europe from the far right!
I wouldn't call correcting the same lies over and over 'fun' - just glad it's over

 

[bonusmedia]

Remember. FEAR is always used to pass laws that take away Civil Liberty, Privacy, Democracy, Free thought, Free speech, The Right to Protest, etc etc etc.
don't let FEAR be the reason you vote IN or OUT.

Sadly fear is a powerful motivator and has drowned out the positive arguments on both sides in this campaign.

A little fear is healthy though; it stops us from getting hurt and keeps us alive through to adulthood

 

[Bailey]

Well seeing our local polling station is downstairs (in our Retirement complex) I might just pop down in my Dressing-Gown And Give the ol'dears, something to put-them-off their Lunch

 

[bonusmedia]

BS? Is that you're response? If you're so cocksure it's BS, how about throwing in a few reasons why you think that? How do you think the EU got started and by whom?



You stated earlier that 'demonstrably' that was wrong, but twice you've failed to demonstrate it. Either do so please or stop repeating it.

Besides, that's just one aspect of many which points to a false flag.

I've shown that the fact you quoted about the elderly man was incorrect. It goes a long way in showing your ability to filter truth from fantasy. Your other points are subjective - the suggestion that her parents weren't grieving enough is not provable one way or the other, sickening though it is.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. You are the one with the outlandish theories - it falls to you to provide evidence. That means evidence for your claims, not tangentially related facts that don't actually support them

 

[gimpydog]

Polling station looked busy. Not sure if that's good, or bad.

Got a badge. Took a selfie...

Vote Early - Vote Often.

 

[bonusmedia]

One last thing.
When we were first thinking about joining the Deutsche Mark, the economic arguments were all in favour of us joining. I did not want to lose the pound, I believed it was an intrinsic part of British life and if we lost it we would lose part of our Identity.
The reason I don't want further integration into a united states of Europe is similar. Put up all the economic arguments, they don't stand up to losing the intrinsic things of our long history of self rule. It's too big a trade off.

Despite the anti-german jibe this is a reasonably fair and honest argument, and I'm glad you realize that your position involves an economic trade-off.

We have a veto on any further integration and have already stated we are not going to be part of it. Our identity is not at risk. We retain parliamentary sovereignty, as we always have

 

[bonusmedia]

Betting odds for remain collapsed to 1/12 vs 7/1 for leave, pound rapidly gaining ground.

 

[Toonz]

Just returned from the polling station to drop off my postal vote and my partner's. First time I've been to one since voting for 'Nice peas, Norma' back in 92. Felt nice to be doing it on the day this time around.

 

[denchomsky]

Betting odds for remain collapsed to 1/12 vs 7/1 for leave, pound rapidly gaining ground.

Based on what? Are they doing exit polls anywhere? not at my polling station.

 

[spiderspider]

I don't get why none of you Guardian readers haven't posted this link yet:

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...-footballer-sent-off-for-farting-during-match

Possibly the best thing to ever read in The Guardian

 

[bonusmedia]

Based on what? Are they doing exit polls anywhere? not at my polling station.

No, no exit polls. Betting odds are based on how much money is bet on each side. Often, but not always a useful indicator, since those willing to stake large amounts tend to have some insight.

Those with vast financial interests in the outcome, such as hedge funds, are running their own polls and have the brightest minds in risk working on predicting/modelling outcomes. It would seem the city has decided we're going to vote remain.

As ever nothing certain til the fat lady sings though