EU Referendum

[Toonz]

Yes particularly a divorce lawyer.
I rest my case.

Not so fast. What point are you making here?

 

[signature]

Putin said today "some western leaders had underestimated the threat of the Nazi's prior to ww2". He then added that "present day leaders were in danger of making the same mistake over international terrorism."


Too busy having a love in.
Looking to jump on a gravy train either in the EU or a large charity.

I hope you know that this statement is referring to western leaders, nothing to do with EU. Its us in the west that usually have this long distance relationship with organisations deemed to be terrorist.
when they work for us, we called them freedom fighters and when we finish with them, we call them terrorist.

Also this has nothing to do with EU or our current vote of tomorrow.

 

[websaway]

We came from conquering most of the planet through violence to being the first Empire to ever give the countries we occupied back to the people - while retaining enormous goodwill and influence in the commonwealth.

We don't have one vote in 28. Votes are not allocated on a one per country basis. We have considerable influence in arguably the most powerful bloc in the world. We also tend to get our own way.

I don't think you think things through.
most powerful bloc in the world , what's that all about then.
No need to answer . Please

 

[websaway]

I hope you know that this statement is referring to western leaders, nothing to do with EU. Its us in the west that usually have this long distance relationship with organisations deemed to be terrorist.
when they work for us, we called them freedom fighters and when we finish with them, we call them terrorist.

Also this has nothing to do with EU or our current vote of tomorrow.

The fact that terrorism is rife all over Europe and we have no protection for our borders. Think on.

 

[websaway]

Not so fast. What point are you making here?

you'll just have to keep up.

 

[Bailey]

Its a pity that we use the whole thread debating the least significant points, your video do bring out some important points, we see how it goes early Friday morning.

Just been listening to the 'Expected' Results reporting, seems like we are going to have a pretty clear picture sometime between 2 and 3am. Though if it remains really tight that could extend until 7am. Pretty sure I'm going to make a night-off-it myself.

PS Cheers beachlife been sitting on 49 likes for Donkey's

 

[BREWSTERS]

How do you get from this to believing the EU is an attempt to rebuild the Third Reich and every terrorist attack is a false flag operation?

Any good conspiracy theory starts with a fact or two to establish credibility

The Nazi plan for Europe was for centralised governance with Germany at its centre. When they were defeated in 1944, the plan switched to take control by stealth instead of force, by establishing an economic community.

 

[bonusmedia]

Repeatedly saying 'you don't think things through' and making personal insults does nothing for your case.
I can assure you I do think things through.

The IRA killed far more Brits than Islamic terrorists have. I was evacuated from school because of an IRA bomb. I don't remember us blaming the Irish people or stopping Irish immigration or closing the borders or withdrawing up our own backsides in fear

 

[bonusmedia]

The Nazi plan for Europe was for centralised governance with Germany at its centre. When they were defeated in 1944, the plan switched to take control by stealth instead of force, by establishing an economic community.

No, it didn't.

 

[websaway]

Has anyone noticed how the remainers will not reply on the point that the EU is run by unelected bureaucrats . So it seems they don't believe in real democracy.

 

[Toonz]

you'll just have to keep up.

Your response didn't seem to counter what I wrote about why the abusive relationship analogy doesn't work. That's why I'm asking you to elaborate. If you can.

Yes particularly a divorce lawyer.

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[Toonz]

Has anyone noticed how the remainers will not reply on the point that the EU is run by unelected bureaucrats . So it seems they don't believe in real democracy.

I have. I've already said there's insufficient democracy for my liking (not a complete absence of democracy, mind you)

 

[websaway]

Repeatedly saying 'you don't think things through' and making personal insults does nothing for your case.
I can assure you I do think things through.

The IRA killed far more Brits than Islamic terrorists have. I was evacuated from school because of an IRA bomb. I don't remember us blaming the Irish people or stopping Irish immigration or closing the borders or withdrawing up our own backsides in fear

Don't you , you probably were not old enough to know.
Isis is a 50 year war.
Again you just don't think things through.

 

[BREWSTERS]

Repeatedly saying 'you don't think things through' and making personal insults does nothing for your case.
I can assure you I do think things through.

The IRA killed far more Brits than Islamic terrorists have. I was evacuated from school because of an IRA bomb. I don't remember us blaming the Irish people or stopping Irish immigration or closing the borders or withdrawing up our own backsides in fear

Exactly....now you're thinking.
When the IRA bombed Manchester, did we go and slaughter a million Irish? No. So why do out puppet leaders go straight to war now? Because that's their plan....look up PNAC.

 

[websaway]

Your response didn't seem to counter what I wrote about why the abusive relationship analogy doesn't work. That's why I'm asking you to elaborate. If you can.


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Well if you asked an expert on a divorce and he was a divorce lawyer . Where do you think the advice would lead you.

 

[Bailey]

Don't you , you probably were not old enough to know.
Isis is a 50 year war.
Again you just don't think things through.

That was Pretty Much Extinguished as an effective (and supported) Fighting Force. Before.We led by the Americans Put Our Noses In.
Happy to direct you towards The Real Historic Position

 

[websaway]

I have. I've already said there's insufficient democracy for my liking (not a complete absence of democracy, mind you)

So how could you vote to remain in a less than totally democratic union.

 

[BREWSTERS]

No, it didn't.

Yes it did.

 

[bonusmedia]

Has anyone noticed how the remainers will not reply on the point that the EU is run by unelected bureaucrats . So it seems they don't believe in real democracy.

This is probably the strongest argument I've seen for leaving - there is not enough accountability in the EU and it desperately needs reform. It's just not enough to outweigh the considerable arguments against.

How would you define 'real democracy'? We elect people to run our affairs of state in the belief they are better at it than us, we don't have a plebiscite on every single issue because it's completely unrealistic to expect the public to make an informed choice on every decision

 

[bonusmedia]

Yes it did.

I've had more enlightening arguments with toddlers