EU Referendum

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Most entrepreneurs have lived through times of companies saying, If you leave you will lose security and all the things employment offer. It's a big world out there , you'll never make it on your own.
Every abused partner in a marriage knows that if they waited for the right moment they would never get out.

 

[BREWSTERS]

There is little sense in challenging incoherent ramblings - at least when you make an obvious clear cut racist statement it's easy enough to point out.

I can agree with you on one point - it's important to be skeptical of news sources. That's quite a long way from deciding they are all conspiring to control us and bring about a new world order controlled by the Jews

Tell me, given that you are a skeptical person, why is it that you trust and even rely on far right conspiracy blogs run by dubious individuals as reliable sources?

Can you list these blogs please, or retract that statement as if anything my political leanings are slightly left of centre.

 

[bonusmedia]

You're just relaying the official story.

I don't believe she has been murdered. It has all the hallmarks of a false flag event. Including a grieving family who can barely suppress their smiles. And a main player who actually died two years ago. And a host of other evidence.

None of this is true, and it's really quite sickening that you keep repeating such bullshit.
How on earth people can suggest that someone who is demonstrably alive and talking to the media is dead is beyond me - is the fact that someone with the same name died really the kind 'evidence' you dare to base such an outlandish accusation on

Can you list these blogs please, or retract that statement as if anything my political leanings are slightly left of centre.

You linked to one in this very thread. If you are left of centre, you should probably abandon the conspiracy theories of the far right lunatic fringe

 

[websaway]

There is little sense in challenging incoherent ramblings - at least when you make an obvious clear cut racist statement it's easy enough to point out.

I can agree with you on one point - it's important to be skeptical of news sources. That's quite a long way from deciding they are all conspiring to control us and bring about a new world order controlled by the Jews

Tell me, given that you are a skeptical person, why is it that you trust and even rely on far right conspiracy blogs run by dubious individuals as reliable sources?

You mean like the Daily Mail ?

 

[bonusmedia]

Most entrepreneurs have lived through times of companies saying, If you leave you will lose security and all the things employment offer. It's a big world out there , you'll never make it on your own.
Every abused partner in a marriage knows that if they waited for the right moment they would never get out.

Well that's the thing - you DO lose security and all the benefits of steady employment. Most entrepreneurs fail a number of times before they make it on their own, I certainly did, and I went back to employment when I had to. We won't get that option here.

I've never been in an abusive relationship but I'd suggest it's a bit different from a political treaty spanning an entire continent

 

[websaway]

Just on the lighter-side of things, I now live in a lovely retirement apartment and The local polling Centre is in one of our many Communal- rooms, So I've literally Just got to walk downstairs. I did Suggest they Perhaps use our Laundry-Room. What with all the 'Dirty washing'

Bailey one final appeal.
Remember where we as a country we came from, and think about where we are going. A group of unelected people running what is becoming a United States of Europe. One vote among 28 a little bit like having one seat in the house of commons.

 

[BREWSTERS]

None of this is true, and it's really quite sickening that you keep repeating such bullshit.
How on earth people can suggest that someone who is demonstrably alive and talking to the media is dead is beyond me - is the fact that someone with the same name died really the kind 'evidence' you dare to base such an outlandish accusation on



You linked to one in this very thread. If you are left of centre, you should probably abandon the conspiracy theories of the far right lunatic fringe

The 'blog' I linked to was the only source I could find that had the video of the guy denying that the perpetrator said 'Britain first'. It took me ages to find anywhere that had that video.

someone who is demonstrably alive and talking to the media

Demonstrate then.

 

[Toonz]

And a main player who actually died two years ago.

How about you demonstrate this first?

EDIT: actually, start a new thread. This is going way off topic.

 

[websaway]

Putin said today "some western leaders had underestimated the threat of the Nazi's prior to ww2". He then added that "present day leaders were in danger of making the same mistake over international terrorism."


Too busy having a love in.
Looking to jump on a gravy train either in the EU or a large charity.

 

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Well that's the thing - you DO lose security and all the benefits of steady employment. Most entrepreneurs fail a number of times before they make it on their own, I certainly did, and I went back to employment when I had to. We won't get that option here.

I've never been in an abusive relationship but I'd suggest it's a bit different from a political treaty spanning an entire continent

Some can do it some can't .

 

[bonusmedia]

Bailey one final appeal.
Remember where we as a country we came from, and think about where we are going. A group of unelected people running what is becoming a United States of Europe. One vote among 28 a little bit like having one seat in the house of commons.

We came from conquering most of the planet through violence to being the first Empire to ever give the countries we occupied back to the people - while retaining enormous goodwill and influence in the commonwealth.

We don't have one vote in 28. Votes are not allocated on a one per country basis. We have considerable influence in arguably the most powerful bloc in the world. We also tend to get our own way.

 

[Bailey]

Bailey one final appeal.
Remember where we as a country we came from, and think about where we are going. .

As a person that remembers quite well our Country Pre- Europe and today. I genuinely believe, The Geographic's are IMPORTANT and Influential in regards your Associations and Allegiances. Give me a Europe everyday. Now if 'As an Island(s) we were positioned Off-the Coast of Australia (or God forbid the USA) my opinion may well be different

 

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ust in case there are any still undecided out there...



Just in case there are any easily scared out there...

Its a pity that we use the whole thread debating the least significant points, your video do bring out some important points, we see how it goes early Friday morning.

 

[websaway]

Actually your war analogy reminds me of an argument that should have been more prominent - The EU has been instrumental in keeping the peace in Europe for the last 60 years - previous to which we had at least 1,000 years of pretty much constant war. Shame there aren't more veterans left alive to remind us:

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/16/franklin-medhurst-96-war-veteran-pro-eu-letter

What a load of rubbish, Nato has kept relative peace in Europe.
Warfare has taken a different strategy and we have been attacked on home soil more since the second world war than at any time before.
You don't think things through.
If people like you with you heads up your backsides had your way, Isis would be half way across Europe by now.

 

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Some can do it some can't .

Yes that's very true.

 

[BREWSTERS]

Nope. Wrong. Another conspiracy theory about "Zee Germans".
"Zee Germans" are on the path to have their own Brexit style referendum.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/653976/Germany-EU-referendum-AfD-Angela-Merkel-migrant-crisis

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-germany-idUKKCN0YM22E

Wrong? So you're saying in front of anyone reading this that Walter Hallstein, legal advisor to the Nazi's before and during WW2 wasn't the first President of the EU? Yes or no?

Or that Prescott Bush (grandaddy of George W) didn't provide finance along with the corporations I mentioned for the Nazi's during WW2? Yes or no?

How about Operation Paperclip...you surely know about that, yes? Where hundreds of high ranking Nazi's were taken to the US in 1943/4 and were placed in high ranking positions. Wernher Von Braun became the head of NASA. Is that all wrong too? Yes or no?

What about the Saxe-Coburg family? Know much about them?

Credit where it's due, this made me chuckle.

 

[Bailey]

Rather Worrying that 'Rubbishing' Of Joe Cox Murder. Scares me that Their will be an Anger response from the Leaves, That isn't and never been part of the Remains Mindset

 

[Toonz]

Every abused partner in a marriage knows that if they waited for the right moment they would never get out.

You keep making this abused partner analogy and I've already pointed out why it doesn't work. With the EU decision, the overwhelming majority of experts and allies are urging us to stay. With an abused partner, the overwhelming majority of experts and friends would urge us to get out. You risk deceiving people by comparing it to escaping an abusive relationship.

 

[websaway]

You keep making this abused partner analogy and I've already pointed out why it doesn't work. With the EU decision, the overwhelming majority of experts and allies are urging us to stay. With an abused partner, the overwhelming majority of experts and friends would urge us to get out. You risk deceiving people by comparing it to escaping an abusive relationship.

Yes particularly a divorce lawyer.
I rest my case.

 

[bonusmedia]

Wrong? So you're saying in front of anyone reading this that Walter Hallstein, legal advisor to the Nazi's before and during WW2 wasn't the first President of the EU? Yes or no?

Or that Prescott Bush (grandaddy of George W) didn't provide finance along with the corporations I mentioned for the Nazi's during WW2? Yes or no?

How about Operation Paperclip...you surely know about that, yes? Where hundreds of high ranking Nazi's were taken to the US in 1943/4 and were placed in high ranking positions. Wernher Von Braun became the head of NASA. Is that all wrong too? Yes or no?

What about the Saxe-Coburg family? Know much about them?

Credit where it's due, this made me chuckle.

How do you get from this to believing the EU is an attempt to rebuild the Third Reich and every terrorist attack is a false flag operation?

Any good conspiracy theory starts with a fact or two to establish credibility