EU Referendum

[bonusmedia]

Its quite a common tactic of fascists to rebuff an accusation by turning it round on the accuser, and it has popular appeal among the less intelligent, but it doesn't stand up to scrutiny. A bit like in Edwin's link - when Boris gets caught lying he calls everyone else liars

 

[gimpydog]

I think the issue is that the majority of the win vote was so small ...
Yes, leave won, but only by 4% of the 72% who bothered to vote.

But, they were lined up against The Establishment, the might & treasure of the Govt, the leaders of 98% of MPs, the BBC, Channel 4, most of the printed press, the neo-liberal London elite, friendly foreign governments, several multi-billionaires, celebrity tax-dodgers, the CBI, the currency markets, the stock markets, the city, the banks, the treasury & BoE, multi-national corporations, the TUC & most trade unions, academics, the football clubs, their employers & a generous sprinkling of rent-a-gob 'experts'. Not to mention the huge inertia.

They even extended the registration deadline by two days for only two hours website downtime.

I reckon that is all worth a minimum 15% head start, plus another 5% for people that hate Farage with a vengeance. It's a miracle to win at all.

It was a convincing win in my book. If the students couldn't be arsed to get out of bed & vote, that's their own bloody fault. Riding a bike around London, spitting their dummies out, abusing politicians, signing petitions, writing letters to The Guardian & creating a Twitter-storm ain't gonna change a thing.

 

[Mark84]

Why are people so desperate to live under dictatorship

Stockholm Syndrome I think

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=s.....69i57j0l5.3023j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

 

[BREWSTERS]

Its quite a common tactic of fascists to rebuff an accusation by turning it round on the accuser, and it has popular appeal among the less intelligent, but it doesn't stand up to scrutiny. A bit like in Edwin's link - when Boris gets caught lying he calls everyone else liars

 

[websaway]

Now, this is odd...

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I thought all the "poorly educated" were voting to leave, but nearly 2 million thickos have signed this petition since the polling stations closed.

It's a protest against democracy. Oh hang on, what are they asking for.

 

[VSC]

Think we have a majority in that too! (?)

Now now, don't spoil the mood ... I was just starting to like you ...

 

[bonusmedia]

It's a protest against democracy. Oh hang on, what are they asking for.

Our democratically elected leaders wanted to remain. It certainly is a protest, I'd say largely against the status quo - and a misguided one, since a lot of those voting leave are those who will suffer most as a result

 

[VSC]

I've said a number of times I don't believe the EU laws should trump UK laws, if they do, that's a dictatorship no?

I think you need to check your dictionary ...

 

[bonusmedia]

But, they were lined up against The Establishment, the might & treasure of the Govt, the leaders of 98% of MPs, the BBC, Channel 4, most of the printed press, the neo-liberal London elite, friendly foreign governments, several multi-billionaires, celebrity tax-dodgers, the CBI, the currency markets, the stock markets, the city, the banks, the treasury & BoE, multi-national corporations, the TUC & most trade unions, academics, the football clubs, their employers & a generous sprinkling of rent-a-gob 'experts'. Not to mention the huge inertia.

They even extended the registration deadline by two days for only two hours website downtime.

I reckon that is all worth a minimum 15% head start, plus another 5% for people that hate Farage with a vengeance. It's a miracle to win at all.

It was a convincing win in my book. If the students couldn't be arsed to get out of bed & vote, that's their own bloody fault. Riding a bike around London, spitting their dummies out, abusing politicians, signing petitions & creating a Twitter-storm ain't gonna change a thing.

Except the leave campaign was run by neo-liberal elitists

 

[VSC]

But, they were lined up against The Establishment, the might & treasure of the Govt, the leaders of 98% of MPs, the BBC, Channel 4, most of the printed press, the neo-liberal London elite, friendly foreign governments, several multi-billionaires, celebrity tax-dodgers, the CBI, the currency markets, the stock markets, the city, the banks, the treasury & BoE, multi-national corporations, the TUC & most trade unions, academics, the football clubs, their employers & a generous sprinkling of rent-a-gob 'experts'. Not to mention the huge inertia.

They even extended the registration deadline by two days for only two hours website downtime.

I reckon that is all worth a minimum 15% head start, plus another 5% for people that hate Farage with a vengeance. It's a miracle to win at all.

It was a convincing win in my book. If the students couldn't be arsed to get out of bed & vote, that's their own bloody fault. Riding a bike around London, spitting their dummies out, abusing politicians, signing petitions & creating a Twitter-storm ain't gonna change a thing.

So you have no interest in reconciliation. Basically anyone who voted remain's voice and opinion no longer matter?

 

[Murray]

Describing it as a dictatorship is not reasonable.

Can a law be made by the EU that goes against UK law and that our representatives at the EU voted against, yet, we have to still abide by it?

 

[bonusmedia]

Can a law be made by the EU that goes against UK law and that our representatives at the EU voted against, yet, we have to still abide by it?

Yes. Similarly, a UK law can be made that you don't like and your representative voted against.
That doesn't mean we live under a dictatorship in the UK.

When you sign up to be a member of a club, you have to abide by all the rules, not just the ones you like.

Again, there are downsides to being a member of a club. You give up some of your autonomy, but you get the benefits of working together.

 

[VSC]

Can a law be made by the EU that goes against UK law and that our representatives at the EU voted against, yet, we have to still abide by it?

The UK government agreed to this, so it cannot be classed as a dictatorship.

 

[websaway]

I think the issue is that the majority of the win vote was so small ...
Yes, leave won, but only by 4% of the 72% who bothered to vote.
It is a difficult situation, but for the sake of national unity, I do think it would be a bad idea going forward ...

England was 6% margin.

So are you thinking that the remain voters are anti British ?

 

[gimpydog]

So you have no interest in reconciliation. Basically anyone who voted remain's voice and opinion no longer matter?

They lost the referendum. Now they want to sign a petition to change the rules of the ballot after the event, because they don't like the fact that they lost. They want to overturn the result.

That is NOT about reconciliation, or a difference of opinion, in my book. It is about disrespecting democracy. They do that at their peril.

How about THEY reconcile THEIR views with the majority of us?

 

[websaway]

Yes. Similarly, a UK law can be made that you don't like and your representative voted against.
That doesn't mean we live under a dictatorship in the UK.

When you sign up to be a member of a club, you have to abide by all the rules, not just the ones you like.

Again, there are downsides to being a member of a club. You give up some of your autonomy, but you get the benefits of working together.

Its quite a common tactic of fascists to rebuff an accusation by turning it round on the accuser, and it has popular appeal among the less intelligent, but it doesn't stand up to scrutiny. A bit like in Edwin's link - when Boris gets caught lying he calls everyone else liars

I know what you mean when you call someone a racist.

 

[bonusmedia]

England was 6% margin.

So are you thinking that the remain voters are anti British ?

Anti-Little England maybe.

 

[bonusmedia]

I know what you mean when you call someone a racist.

Hah. I have never called you or anyone in this thread a racist. I said one sentence you said was racist, because it was, and you then went on about people playing the race card 100 times

 

[websaway]

They lost the referendum. Now they want to sign a petition to change the rules of the ballot after the event, because they don't like the fact that they lost. They want to overturn the result.

That is NOT about reconciliation, or a difference of opinion, in my book. It is about disrespecting democracy. They do that at their peril.

How about THEY reconcile THEIR views with the majority of us?

They are young aren't they.

 

[bonusmedia]

They are young aren't they.

It's the young who will suffer the results of this. It's the young who have been s%%% on from a great height over the last decade or so. Don't expect them to shut up and take it forever