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[newguy]

I hope that we're all fortunate enough in a years time to say that none of our nearest and dearest have been impacted by this. That would no doubt be a relief for all of us.

 

[LCHappy]

If you want to kill off this thread, fine go ahead.

I'm not sure that is helpful. All I did was ask you a question about whether or not you would be concerned if the death rate was not higher than the week before or the same week last year.

Would you consider it odd if the numbers of overall don't go up compared to previous weeks and same weeks in previous years?

 

[Sound]

It's natural to feel fear and anxiety in a lock-down and time of change.

People will deal with it in different ways and some will feel the need to excessively post on here and on other media outlets like twitter as a release

What people need to think before they post is other peoples mental health and anxiety levels at times like this when we are all bombarded on the tv radio and in the papers and may come to a domain forum for some light relief from the world we are now living in.

Some members have a track record of this fear and anxiety if they look back at the threads concerning nominet and brexit and now this coronavirus pandemic.

Maybe limit the number of post you can make to two a day in this thread?

We don't need armchair experts at a time like this we need more positive threads.

 

[diablo]

Twice I've said why I pick those two to compare...don't you try and say I pick them for any other reason than I said.

Although I like Denmark...been there many times on business and have made friends with people there. In fact where I live is twinned with Aalborg...a place I've been several times and have friends there. Despite that - Denmark is in lock down...but it doesn't effect me, or you, or probably anyone else on this forum Diablo. Does what's happening in Denmark effect you one iota? Nor me.

But what's happening in the UK is vital to me, and everyone (probably) on this forum.

Got that? Got why I use the UK as one side of the comparison? Hmm?

Now...Sweden is the closest and largest country that I know of that isn't enforcing a full lock down.

Do you know of a bigger or closer country that doesn't have a full lock down? If you do, tell us.

Don't try saying you know my motives better than me.

If you want to compare other countries, go ahead.

Thanks for that. Not addressing my question speaks volume enough though. Like most people on here, I'll not be engaging with you anymore. It's giving this thread more life than it now deserves.

I'll just leave Sweden and Denmark on the table for those willing to open their eyes to the fact that maybe "no lockdown" might not be the answer.

 

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[LCHappy]

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5G phone masts destroyed in October last year, probably earlier if I wanted to search. They've been being attacked for many months, long before CoronaVirus.

How do they know the motivation of this lot if they haven't caught anyone?

https://www.5gradar.com/news/suspect-in-custody-following-arson-attack-on-5g-mast

 

[BREWSTERS]

Todays numbers - extrapolated to equal population size;

UK - 3743 new cases - 42433 total cases - 708 deaths

Sweden - 2000 new cases - 41320 total cases - 96 deaths


Feel free to post up any other countries if they're relevant to you.

 

[Richard K]

Todays numbers - extrapolated to equal population size;

UK - 3743 new cases - 42433 total cases - 708 deaths

Sweden - 2000 new cases - 41320 total cases - 96 deaths

Interesting, but my impression is that the reason Sweden is taking a more relaxed approach than we are is largely that they've not reached the level of infections and deaths that we have – not the other way around.

 

[mojoco]

Government classifies High Consequence Infectious DiseaseS or HCID’s. CV is no longer classified as one...

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-consequence-infectious-diseases-hcid

???

 

[BREWSTERS]

Interesting, but my impression is that the reason Sweden is taking a more relaxed approach than we are is largely that they've not reached the level of infections and deaths that we have – not the other way around.

Eh? The number of confirmed cases is almost identical per capita....when the UK went into lock down we had very few deaths. We went into lock down (aka economic suicide) and they didn't.

 

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[Richard K]

Eh? The number of confirmed cases is almost identical per capita....when the UK went into lock down we had very few deaths. We went into lock down (aka economic suicide) and they didn't.

The number of confirmed cases in any given country hinges hugely on how many people they test. So it's irrelevant that two countries have a similar number of confirmed cases – especially when the UK (who test so few) is one of them.

I was focusing instead of the number of deaths, which provides a better indication of where Sweden stands by comparison to the UK. Now however you've shifted your argument to refer to the number of UK deaths at the point of lockdown, in which case those are the figures you should have presented rather than today's.

 

[rob]

If you are quoting 'confirmed cases' you are an actual idiot.

1,100 tests a day taking place in Wales, that is not numbers of people either. 3m+ population.

This thread is a disgrace to be honest, and to hear the main protagonist has had conspiracy theories on here about the murder of Jo Cox as well is a failure of the admin / mods. All for debate, but this does the forum, and by extension UK domainers no credit at all.

 

[LCHappy]

If you are quoting 'confirmed cases' you are an actual idiot.

1,100 tests a day taking place in Wales, that is not numbers of people either. 3m+ population.

This thread is a disgrace to be honest, and to hear the main protagonist has had conspiracy theories on here about the murder of Jo Cox as well is a failure of the admin / mods. All for debate, but this does the forum, and by extension UK domainers no credit at all.

Yet all the abuse and personal insults comes from one side of the debate.

 

[bonusmedia]

These are the victims of Sandy Hook which he still says was a hoax.
His mob are still harassing their grieving parents to this day.

There's just no sense talking science with someone who denies the moon landings, you'll never get anywhere, it isn't an argument in good faith. It's about knowing better than everyone else, if we all agreed with him he'd need a new theory. He wants anger and reactions to validate his insecurity, it's all just very sad.

Has anyone seen LC and Brewsters in the same room? I think the public deserve to know!

 

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[LCHappy]

The number of confirmed cases in any given country hinges hugely on how many people they test. So it's irrelevant that two countries have a similar number of confirmed cases – especially when the UK (who test so few) is one of them.

I was focusing instead of the number of deaths, which provides a better indication of where Sweden stands by comparison to the UK. Now however you've shifted your argument to refer to the number of UK deaths at the point of lockdown, in which case those are the figures you should have presented rather than today's.

I think you are right to focus on the number of deaths overall. I don't think you can match deaths with Covid or from it to be honest because each country seems to be doing it's own thing in how it counts it as being Covid related.

I think if we could match year on year increases or decreases for corresponding weeks, that would be a good method.

 

[LCHappy]

Has anyone seen LC and Brewsters in the same room? I think the public deserve to know!

Trying to derail the thread with erh conspiracy theories and random pictures again. Do you believe that if you keep trying to break this thread with childish posts maybe @Admin will lock it, is that your plan?

 

[newguy]

Todays numbers - extrapolated to equal population size;

UK - 3743 new cases - 42433 total cases - 708 deaths

Sweden - 2000 new cases - 41320 total cases - 96 deaths


Feel free to post up any other countries if they're relevant to you.

According to worldometers.info Sweden had 563 new cases yesterday and 50 deaths. Their population is 10 million, therefore surely the extrapolated deaths would be over 300? Still lower than us but nowhere near as dramatically so as the above figures suggest. Perhaps you're working it out in a different way or have different figures?

Also, we are in the midst of a lockdown in very early stages of this. We have absolutely no idea what Sweden's number will be in a couple of months time compared to ours or whether they may have brought in additional restrictions if cases rise at a worrying rate. It's new territory.

As has been said, knowing exactly how many cases anywhere has is tricky due to the different approaches to testing. However, if we take even Sweden's number as gospel they've gone from 19 cases to 6000 in a month and therefore there is no reason to think that the amount of cases and deaths will not explode over the coming months. They'll be lumbered with making the exact same choices we are, and quite frankly I'd be incredibly surprised if they do not bring in bar and restaurant restrictions or something akin to a lockdown over the next couple of months. It's a very likely scenario to happen.