Nominet announces programme for evolving the .uk domain name space

[Stephen]

Only Twitter

Nominee tweeted me earlier to ask for feedback (probably because I was tweeting about it yesterday):

https://twitter.com/nominet/status/347633880750227456

Didn't expect that but I suppose it's all about PR.

Twitter is the only way to register for update on .uk Version 2.0.

Still no email from Nominet about .uk V2.0 when I registered to be kept upto date on .uk back in November?

 

[Retired_Member38]

They told me to *.org.uk on trading names. There search portal is a nightmare mate.

I can't even get the search portal to work in Safari or Chrome. It does work in Firefox though.

 

[GreyWing]

I can't even get the search portal to work in Safari or Chrome. It does work in Firefox though.

When you search, give it 10 seconds and hit the back button in chrome.... it then loads the page. :mrgreen: it is crazy

 

[Stephen]

medical .co.uk v medical .nhs.uk

Just came across an interesting single word medical domain for sale
which would look attractive as a .uk domain.

I dutifully and dillegently checked the medical word with the usual extensions:

• .org.uk
• .me.uk
• .ltd.uk
• .plc.uk
• .net.uk

The .co.uk predated all of them and so it still looked like an interesting buy.

But then I had a thought, I'd just check medical word with .nhs.uk
and to my suprise the whios record showed :

Registered on: before Aug-1996

So until we see the detail of Nominet .uk V2.0 that .uk domain
would go to the NHS.

 

[Rob_F]

But then I had a thought, I'd just check medical word with .nhs.uk
and to my suprise the whios record showed :

Registered on: before Aug-1996

So until we see the detail of Nominet .uk V2.0 that .uk domain
would go to the NHS.

Are you sure it is actually registered? Anything.nhs.uk will return a registered result.

E.g. http://whois-search.com/whois/jhhhjffffdfd.nhs.uk

- Rob

 

[Retired_Member42]

Rob is correct. .nhs.uk is operated by the NHS and it offers sub domains on its own domain, same like uk.com etc. If you're an NHS organisation you'd request name.nhs.uk and point it at your host. Someone having a site on dr.nhs.uk wouldn't have claim to dr.uk - as a matter of fact, dr.me.uk has that

 

[Stephen]

.nhs.uk

Are you sure it is actually registered? Anything.nhs.uk will return a registered result.

E.g. http://whois-search.com/whois/jhhhjffffdfd.nhs.uk

- Rob

Thanks for that information.

As it had dns records listed on Nominet whios it looked genuine
although it did not resolve to a website.

I hope Nominet make this clear in their 1st July document
and don't simply refer to the Nominet whois record as source of registration date as NHS would get the lot and we all be in a lot of trouble!

Strange how .NHS.uk is set up like that but these are not:

• .gov.uk
• .mod.uk
• .police.uk
• .sch.uk

 

[Murray]

Are you sure it is actually registered? Anything.nhs.uk will return a registered result.

E.g. http://whois-search.com/whois/jhhhjffffdfd.nhs.uk

- Rob

The NHS predate everyone for everything.. .uk is a big get rich scheme by the bosses there

Though joking aside they really could do with some bloody funding.

 

[Stephen]

.net.uk?

Thanks for solving the .nhs.uk issue

What about direct.co.uk
it was a great catch in October 2012 (during V1 direct.uk) and it looks like
direct.org.uk (2004) will be beaten by direct.me.uk (2002)

But wait there is a final entry into the race with another 3rd level tld
direct.net.uk as a registrar Registered on: before Aug-1996

Do we have a Winner?

 

[redbird]

as a matter of fact, dr.me.uk has that

That would be me then

 

[Retired_Member42]

I was wondering if anyone would enquire about it as a result of my example. dr.uk would be great to sell sub domains to other doctors. Bollocks to nhs.uk, dr.uk is much better. Offer it back to Nominet for 6 figures

 

[anthony]

A certain Mr Conwell might do well out of this exercise!

 

[retired_member29]

Maybe a simple points system based on roughly 5 factors could be drawn up to decide a fairer outcome of who gets .uk and the age of the domain ownership is a factor but certainly not the only factor e.g.

1) who owns .co.uk - 10 points
2) what is the site used for - up to 10 points
3) is the site parked - 6 points
4) the length the domain has been registered - up to 12 points
5) ??

What 5 things do you think should decide who gets the .uk?. Maybe some here think whoever owns the co.uk should be a very large factor in deciding who gets .uk.

 

[DaveP]

Scott, I think you're on the right track there.

If a business has invested a heavy amount and built up a solid website on a .co.uk domain and the .org.uk is parked then it's only fair the .co.uk owner gets the domain regardless of what was registered first.

Surely this is common sense, right?

 

[Systreg]

There are only 2 options for me in all of this:

1. They ditch direct.uk completely

2. If it's brought in, .co.uk owners get automatic rights to the .UK

As with .com being commercial, I've always though the co in .co.uk stood for commercial, Monaghan touched on this several pages back here:

http://www.acorndomains.co.uk/uk-do...lving-uk-domain-name-space-29.html#post451062

Going back to my text books from my Sun systems administrator training and Sun being one of the leading players as far as the Internet was concerned in the late 1980's they actually defined .com as international commercial and .co.country or .com.country for geographical commercial, when I got my pre-nominet .co.uk the company that provided the registration also followed that process. It was only really the ".com boom" as defined by the media that seems to have encouraged violation of these original registration guidelines and this bad practise seems to have continued ever since. Some of the later entrants have gone with just name.country but they don't have the historical conventions to deal with.

 

[grantw]

Scott, I think you're on the right track there.

If a business has invested a heavy amount and built up a solid website on a .co.uk domain and the .org.uk is parked then it's only fair the .co.uk owner gets the domain regardless of what was registered first.

Surely this is common sense, right?

It's unworkable. In the above example the .org.uk owner may have the domain parked while he's paying £1m to have a massive site developed. He may not have even parked it at all, the registrar could've stuck a parking page up on the holding page.

There are so many different variables I don't see how any kind of manual process could work when there's 10 million domains to check.

Grant

 

[retired_member29]

It's unworkable. In the above example the .org.uk owner may have the domain parked while he's paying £1m to have a massive site developed. He may not have even parked it at all, the registrar could've stuck a parking page up on the holding page.

There are so many different variables I don't see how any kind of manual process could work when there's 10 million domains to check.

Grant

I was just thinking out loud really. Was just interested what ways .uk could be allocated. I suppose variables as you say could be used on a smaller number of more valuable domains or contested domains but obviously not the whole 10 million.

 

[grantw]

I was just thinking out loud really.

I know mate, was just being arsey as I'm bored with all this nonsense.

I vote everyone has to write a letter to Nominet explaining why they deserve the .uk domain of their choice and the best letter wins, 1 domain per letter. The board and the chief exec can be tasked with reading them and making the decision

Grant

 

[namealot]

I know mate, was just being arsey as I'm bored with all this nonsense.

I vote everyone has to write a letter to Nominet explaining why they deserve the .uk domain of their choice and the best letter wins, 1 domain per letter. The board and the chief exec can be tasked with reading them and making the decision

Grant

rock paper scissors

Personally think they’ve gone from stealing your well kept landscaped garden granting themselves permission to put a sewage works and a house Before flooging the house to some chav who’d be breaking in your house and nicking everything.

To still building the sewage works and the house but this time making you buy it unless your unlucky enough that there banjo plucking inbreed cousin happened to have taken a dump in it some time before you?

Having said that I’ve just become very happy with a few org,uk and me,uk

 

[aZooZa]

What with the Jill Finney debacle, one really has to wonder whether there are any persons of sound mind currently in positions of responsibility at Nominet. It's about time the government stepped in and started taking care of this huge and vital commercial property which is the UK internet. Leave the bloody thing as it is.

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