EU Referendum

[Avano Ltd]

yes not much good data coming out, I am not liking the remain campaign jumping on this for political gain either.

you load up the economy towards a service based model (87%<) its always going to bite you back.

 

[BREWSTERS]

It would be pretty disgusting to use Jo Cox's death for any sort of political capital, but there are only 6 days until polling day after all.

Tell the Biased Broadcasting Corporation....all day they've been quoting an eyewitness as saying the shooter shouted 'Britain first' - he is on video saying he never heard any such thing.

 

[VSC]

Tell the Biased Broadcasting Corporation....all day they've been quoting an eyewitness as saying the shooter shouted 'Britain first' - he is on video saying he never heard any such thing.

Not biased, they are reporting what the man said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36552367
Hear for yourself.

 

[BREWSTERS]

Actually it is because I see the bigger picture that I am voting remain. I believe that the UK is at greater risk by leaving. The UK has been on the win side of EU voting on 97% of the time, and yes, on the losing side on 3%of the time. Better ratios than UK elections under the first past the post system.

I'm sorry, I don't understand what's meant by that.

And how can you accuse me of not knowing anything about the history of the EU? Do you know me? Do you know my and my family history? Do you have any idea of what research I have done? Just because I have a different view do not be so condescending -

I work on the assumption that anyone who knows how the EU was started, and by whom, will realise what the end plan for it is. Anyone with that information still wanting to remain...well, I just don't know how they could.

 

[denchomsky]

When you listen to the experts you have to take into consideration the objective of their ambitions. Unless they are under oath.

Maybe the spokespeople and experts from both camps should be made to swear on the bible, cross their heart and hope to die & swear on their mothers life before they say anything from now on. We might then get the truth. I really doubt many would actually do it.

 

[BREWSTERS]

Not biased, they are reporting what the man said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36552367
Hear for yourself.

Who's that guy? The eyewitness that was interviewed at the scene yesterday and was there when it happened (I think he tackled the guy) is called Hircham Ban Abdulla (?)

I'll try and find the video.

 

[denchomsky]

Not biased, they are reporting what the man said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36552367
Hear for yourself.

The interviewer really wanted him to say it didn't he, almost like they had rehearsed it and he nearly forgot. Not saying the guy is lying, just that the interviewer definitely wanted it said even though they were not talking about any motive.

 

[BREWSTERS]

The interviewer really wanted him to say it didn't he, almost like they had rehearsed it and he nearly forgot. Not saying the guy is lying, just that the interviewer definitely wanted it said even though they were not talking about any motive.

I just saw the same interviewer asking the same guy the same question on the 6pm bbc news, only this time he was at home sitting in a chair. I think he had a different top on this time but can't be sure.
Why didn't they go back to the guy who tackled the aleged shooter?

 

[websaway]

Did anyone see Corbyn standing shoulder to shoulder with Cameron today, well not exactly shoulder to shoulder, Corbyn looked very uncomfortable as he put more distance between himself and the PM ( it would have been hilarious if the situation had not been such a sad one).
He wouldn't shake hands with Blair, he doesn't exactly love the Monarchy.
I think fighting hate should start within his own heart.

 

[BREWSTERS]

Not biased, they are reporting what the man said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36552367
Hear for yourself.

I found a copy of the video of the real witness - this is the guy who was at the scene; http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=55017 - scroll down to find the video.

That guy interviewed on the BBC looks like he's remembering a script. I saw him on the Broadcasting Bullshit Corporation news at 10pm aswell!! This time he's wearing a top advertising his plumbing company - DCP Plumbing - the vacuous POS.

 

[websaway]

Stunned that Mr Cox has chosen to right an article at this time on an issue so sensitive at this time. Not sure if he's suggesting that everyone who thinks immigration to the UK is unsustainable are part of the right, and not sure how far right he is suggesting. He says on immigration, the UK government focus on the wrong issues, he says they are obsessed over numbers. Does he not know that it is only on numbers that there is a problem, and the fact that those numbers are not controlled. I think even he may be deluded over the amount of feeling and concern there is over uncontrolled immigration into the UK over the next 20 or 30 years.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...al-with-migration-debate-says-jo-coxs-husband

 

[Mark84]

Looks like the guy was a mental patient who couldn't get help less than 24 hours before the attack. If only there wasn't such long queues to get seen by health services

He was also known for teaching English to Immigrants.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...p-health-counsellor-just-24-hours-attack.html

Just looks a real sad case of someone losing the plot over a number of years / decades, nothing more nothing less. The BBC should stop with this propaganda BS.

 

[Mark84]

Mind you to be fair to the BBC, they are reporting that his links to the far right look to have ended almost a decade ago. They look to be rowing back from original stance yesterday, so fair play to them.

 

[newguy]

Stunned that Mr Cox has chosen to right an article at this time on an issue so sensitive at this time. Not sure if he's suggesting that everyone who thinks immigration to the UK is unsustainable are part of the right, and not sure how far right he is suggesting. He says on immigration, the UK government focus on the wrong issues, he says they are obsessed over numbers. Does he not know that it is only on numbers that there is a problem, and the fact that those numbers are not controlled. I think even he may be deluded over the amount of feeling and concern there is over uncontrolled immigration into the UK over the next 20 or 30 years.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...al-with-migration-debate-says-jo-coxs-husband

It states that the article they refer to was written weeks back, he just makes it clear that he's going to carry on in the memory of his wife.

 

[websaway]

An interesting article from the Guardian this morning, he probably speaks for a lot of people.

https://www.theguardian.com/money/blog/2016/jun/18/eu-vote-brexit-working-people-rents-wages

 

[dougs]

Edwin might have a hidden agenda, he lives in Cambridge where presumably education is a massive consideration but one can't slight him for that. Everyone has self interest in this referendum, for some it's about EU money that they get, for others it's about positions on the gravy train that is the EU, and yet for others it's simply wanting to retain their sovereignty and/or control immigration.

I think many people do not have self interests at heart. Simple rational here:

the under 40's mostly wish to stay in
people educated past 16 mostly wish to stay
predominantly the uneducated and poor suffer in times of turmoil
generally the young and the educated are the ones who win when turmoil happens as they have little to loose and can grasp opportunity

So the educated should if having only self interest at heart want to leave, but they do not.

 

[dougs]

Edwin might have a hidden agenda, he lives in Cambridge where presumably education is a massive consideration but one can't slight him for that. Everyone has self interest in this referendum, for some it's about EU money that they get, for others it's about positions on the gravy train that is the EU, and yet for others it's simply wanting to retain their sovereignty and/or control immigration.

Guys please stop it will you...you are making personal attacks on someone because they disagree

 

[dougs]

He also, rather than answer a post or continue the thread, edits an older post so it reads as if he has written it earlier, so that puts the next post out of context , It renders the continuity of the thread meaningless. Look, there are more on here who want Brexit than want to remain. His argument is a one string bow and he will go for the people rather than enter into the overall argument, most of which he thinks is irrelevant because it doesn't relate to him even though it relates to the majority of the UK.

This site gets many more viewers per day than the vocal ones Do not make assumptions.

 

[dougs]

yes not much good data coming out, I am not liking the remain campaign jumping on this for political gain either.

you load up the economy towards a service based model (87%<) its always going to bite you back.

Confused:
Should we make physical things?
Should we grow things?
Both we cannot compete on the world stage due to the cost of people.....mind you the robots will soon be here
So we have to be a skills based economy

 

[websaway]

I think many people do not have self interests at heart. Simple rational here:

the under 40's mostly wish to stay in
people educated past 16 mostly wish to stay
predominantly the uneducated and poor suffer in times of turmoil
generally the young and the educated are the ones who win when turmoil happens as they have little to loose and can grasp opportunity

So the educated should if having only self interest at heart want to leave, but they do not.

you probably know it's not wise to enter into debate on made up figures. The only vote you can rely on is your own. That's democracy, which comes with Sovereignty, which you don't care about , as you stated in your previous post.