EU Referendum

bonusmedia · Jun 14, 2016

I think I've always assumed that people here were largely 'techie' types. It's interesting that apparently domainers are largely 'older gentlemen'. Is there anyone here under 40?
Might explain the way the vote's going...

The tech world (and your customers) firmly favour remain:

https://next.ft.com/content/322f7d54-07dd-11e6-a623-b84d06a39ec2
http://www.techcityuk.com/blog/2016/04/tech-leaders-want-to-remain-in-eu/
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/b...rwise-justeat-ve-funding-circle-a7031851.html
http://londonfirst.co.uk/events/rally-for-remain-a-celebration-of-tech-london-and-europe/

looks · Jun 14, 2016

This is an old article, leave or remain things like this need to change asap. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/rel...ht-to-wear-cross-at-work-says-Government.html

bonusmedia · Jun 14, 2016

looks said:
This is an old article, leave or remain things like this need to change asap. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/rel...ht-to-wear-cross-at-work-says-Government.html

What on earth has this got to do with anything?

You may as well just jump up and down shouting 'Muslims' and frothing at the mouth, you might at least get the help you need

looks · Jun 14, 2016

Lol. I suspect things like this are in the minds of many people in the country, many people who want to leave.

bonusmedia · Jun 14, 2016

looks said:
Lol. I suspect things like this are in the minds of many people in the country, many people who want to leave.

You may be right. Who knows how many people will make their decision based on emotional reactions to changes they don't like - such as decimalisation

Sadly they may be condemning the rest of us to a lower quality of life

Edwin · Jun 14, 2016

This is worth a read (the associated video was interesting too)
http://www.theguardian.com/politics...abour-tells-core-voters-but-no-ones-listening

Ties into the idea that this whole thing may be decided on relatively surprising issues only tangential to the arguments being made by both sides.

Toonz · Jun 14, 2016

looks said:
This is an old article, leave or remain things like this need to change asap. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/rel...ht-to-wear-cross-at-work-says-Government.html

You realise it was the European Court of Human Rights that ruled in her favour, yes? And the British government who fought against her wishes?

AlistairM · Jun 14, 2016

Live debate just about to start here if anybody's interested. EU Referendum Debate | Boris Johnson v. Alex Salmond Live | Telegraph & Huffington Post

Starts at 7pm.

looks · Jun 14, 2016

Yes. But that isn't the point, it should never have happened in the first place. All religions should have equal rights I think we need to leave the EU then get someone like UKIP charge

bonusmedia · Jun 14, 2016

looks said:
Yes. But that isn't the point, it should never have happened in the first place. All religions should have equal rights I think we need to leave the EU then get someone like UKIP charge

We could all wear leather and march around with little skulls on our helmets too

In case that's too subtle, we could also INVADE POLAND

looks · Jun 14, 2016

Blind of stupid, you are one of the two.

bonusmedia · Jun 14, 2016

looks said:
Blind of stupid, you are one of the two.

Yeah? Well you're a poopoohead

looks · Jun 14, 2016

Bringing the nazis into it is just crazy, i assume you are trying to call me racist. I assume you missed the bit where i said All religions should have equal rights

bonusmedia · Jun 14, 2016

looks said:
Bringing the nazis into it is just crazy, i assume you are trying to call me racist. I assume you missed the bit where i said All religions should have equal rights

Of course they should. How is that in question and what does it have to do with the EU?

UKIP is a far right organization. Many members are certainly racists, and some are fascists.

I do find it funny that someone in the pimping business is trying to defend Christian rights against the EU, even before the fact that the ECHR ruled in their favour

Toonz · Jun 14, 2016

looks said:
Yes. But that isn't the point, it should never have happened in the first place. All religions should have equal rights I think we need to leave the EU then get someone like UKIP charge

I'm just trying to get my head around how remaining or exiting the EU would have had a bearing on the Legend of Necklace Lady? I trust you were pleased with the decision by the ruddy yoomun rights eurocrats? Thank the Lord for the ECHR, eh?

I agree that if we have to continue to pander to silly bronze age myths, then we should do so equally, but still.

Edwin · Jun 14, 2016

In the words of the Battlestar Galactica reboot: "All this has happened before."

Setting aside the few paragraphs on the Euro (currency not footie), this piece from 1999 by the late Hugo Young pretty much nails the current debate just as accurately as it did the then-debate back in the second millennium...

This bit in particular resonated mightily:

At the heart of this is an impenetrable contradiction in the anti-Europe British mind. It cannot decide between terror and disdain. Britain is apparently so great, as well as so different, a place that she can afford to do without her continental hinterland. But she is so puny, so endangered, so destined to lose every argument with the continentals, that she must fear for her identity if and when she makes the final commitment to belong among them.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/14/hugo-young-euro-referendum-archive-piece-1999

websaway · Jun 14, 2016

BeachLife said:
Indeed, and there are many more forecasts out there. Even some from the leave side show a "shallow" recession.

Only one however, to my knowledge, has forecast a positive effect, and that is the one shown, by "Economists for Brexit". They are I assume, showing how they will fund the unicorns, along with the NHS, CAP, scientific funding, schools, tariffs etc.

How much of a drop in GDP in equivalent to the saving in EU contributions? I recall 0.6%, but that is probably disputed also.

I hope the sovereignty (or should we call it nostalgia) is worth it, because we and our children will be paying heavily for it.

Trust us.