UK Leaves the EU - What happens next?

[Edwin]

A really shocking example of the "new normal" (hopefully still not that common) - racial abuse footage handed into Channel 4 a little earlier today
https://amp.twimg.com/v/ca77c55a-7faf-45e8-acf9-69ed3acc9513

The number of reports of incidents is multiplying very quickly.

And look at the quotes from the guy in this article, completely unafraid to give his full name. It's hard to imagine he would have been so forthcoming a week ago
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...el-in-giving-the-metropolitan-elite-a-kicking

 

[VSC]

However:
A) Most people (99%? 99.9%? 99.99%?) won't have been following that closely, so these things will appear to be a surprise to them

I think I made a comment in the "other" thread, that most people vote emotionally ... just like we do when we buy something.

People were buying in to an emotional answer to what they felt was a specific problem facing them. No right, no wrong, just the way it is.

Both sides will be disappointed and surprised at some of the outcomes ...

 

[looks]

A really shocking example of the "new normal" (hopefully still not that common) - racial abuse footage handed into Channel 4 a little earlier today
https://amp.twimg.com/v/ca77c55a-7faf-45e8-acf9-69ed3acc9513

The number of reports of incidents is multiplying very quickly.

And look at the quotes from the guy in this article, completely unafraid to give his full name. It's hard to imagine he would have been so forthcoming a week ago
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...el-in-giving-the-metropolitan-elite-a-kicking

That's horrible in the first link Edwin, no place for it in this country. The police and cps should come down hard on this type of thing.

 

[Edwin]

That's horrible in the first link Edwin, no place for it in this country. The police and cps should come down hard on this type of thing.

Agreed. The scary thing is that if you're watching Twitter intently, it's clearly something that's growing worse almost hour by hour (there are a lot of reports coming up against the #Brexit tag, in amongst a thousand other things)

 

[Edwin]

I saw someone posted this on Facebook a few minutes ago, which seemed to summarise the situation very well:

I don't think Brexit has made Britain more racist, i do think however, that is had made it socially acceptable for those racists to be more open and proud about their racism...

In other words, it's stripped away at the veneer of political correctness that reined in some people's attitudes, by giving a supposed legitimacy to their worldview. (Of course it wasn't meant to do that, but it's an unintended consequence both of the way the campaign was run, the language and props used during the campaign, and also the "misunderstanding" about immigration and what the notion of "control" actually means amongst a small minority of Leave voters).

That's the problem with large numbers: even if we start with the view that for instance only 1-in-1,000 Leave voters have overtly racist tendencies, that's 17,000 people who feel empowered since the vote result came in.

 

[martin-s]

I'm interested to know in the context of "what happens next", if any of you are taking a revised position financially, be that moving funds abroad, buying assets rather than money in the bank, shoving it under the mattress?

Does watching my SIPP value plummet count? Actually it's not that bad. Only down around 6% so far. Just wish I had spare cash to lump on with!

 

[ian]

A really shocking example of the "new normal" (hopefully still not that common) - racial abuse footage handed into Channel 4 a little earlier today
https://amp.twimg.com/v/ca77c55a-7faf-45e8-acf9-69ed3acc9513

Makes me very sad to see this, but equally so to think that this is the next generation right here; wouldn't say that this racist attack is anything to do with the current situation, I doubt this idiot even knows where Europe is.

 

[VSC]

Anyone have an .eu domain?
You will probably have to surrender it after we leave (I had two related to my main business)

From the site:
Any person, company or organisation based in the European Union, Iceland, Norway or Liechtenstein can register a domain name under .eu

 

[Murray]

The number of reports of incidents is multiplying very quickly.

The trouble with the news is they will report whatever sells and get clicks, and atm, racism is hot

 

[BREWSTERS]

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OMG! There were racists BEFORE Brexit too!

Remember, whatever get's the attention of the masses will be forced down their throats. Not heard much about Jo Cox this past few days, suppose there's no reason to anymore.

Believe half of what you see and none of what you hear. Especially if it comes from mainstream media...question everything - don't think for one second they don't have an agenda.

 

[BREWSTERS]

The trouble with the news is they will report whatever sells and get clicks, and atm, racism is hot

Just saw your post after posting mine - uncanny!

 

[gimpydog]

Priceless...

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7 minutes of joy, but Nigel's delivery is not as good as the master.

RIP Bob.​

 

[gimpydog]

Anyone have an .eu domain?
You will probably have to surrender it after we leave (I had two related to my main business)

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OMG! There were racists BEFORE Brexit too!

Remember, whatever get's the attention of the masses will be forced down their throats. Not heard much about Jo Cox this past few days, suppose there's no reason to anymore.

Believe half of what you see and none of what you hear. Especially if it comes from mainstream media...question everything - don't think for one second they don't have an agenda.

Or possibly there has been a large increase in racist abuse, in line with the reports. That's what the police and the organizations who deal with the fallout are saying.

I agree that it is very important to be skeptical and careful of what sources you believe - but the only sources you've pointed to have been some of the least reliable, extremist conspiracy websites.

You mentioned Jo Cox, are you still denying she was murdered? I ask because I think this is helpful in demonstrating your reliability as a source - you were very quick to believe completely unsubstantiated theories that suited your worldview, even in the face of solid evidence to the contrary

 

[bonusmedia]

The trouble with the news is they will report whatever sells and get clicks, and atm, racism is hot

Do you think the police are lying?

 

[spiderspider]

There was someone on the radio yesterday who was an expert in the racist attacks area.

They stated that following an National Event, like a terrorist attack, election, racist murder etc, there is a spike in racist incidents. Always happens and there is evidence to prove this.
However, when looked at over time (rather than just 4 days after a ref.) the number of racist incidents is actually in decline.

 

[bonusmedia]

There was someone on the radio yesterday who was an expert in the racist attacks area.

They stated that following an National Event, like a terrorist attack, election, racist murder etc, there is a spike in racist incidents. Always happens and there is evidence to prove this.
However, when looked at over time (rather than just 4 days after a ref.) the number of racist incidents is actually in decline.

I think it's fair to suggest this event may effect the long term trend.
Sadly there are many racist people who believe they have been vindicated by the result.

 

[gimpydog]

"Britain is likely to avoid entering recession after voting to leave the European Union if the Bank of England cuts interest and restarts its quantitative easing program..."

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-ratings-s-p-idUSKCN0ZE1PG

 

[bonusmedia]

"Britain is likely to avoid entering recession after voting to leave the European Union if the Bank of England cuts interest and restarts its quantitative easing program..."

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-ratings-s-p-idUSKCN0ZE1PG

I hope so! Though reliance on printing more money does not always go well

Cutting interest rates helps borrowing/investment but given increasing costs of imports we may have inflation to deal with too

 

[VSC]

You could panic, or you could simply use a
nominee service & carry on as normal.

Looking briefly, that appears to be against their registration policy.
I wasn't panicking - just pointing something out.
Do not assume because someone points out something that goes against your point of view that they are panicking.