September .uk drop discussion

[LCHappy]

Fasthosts T&Cs

"For UK domain names the transfer of ownership can be actioned via the Our control panel by the person named as account contact at the time the controlling account was secured who shall be deemed the designate of the Registrant with the authority to manage the domain name. The registrant shall be required to agree, in writing to be bound by these terms and conditions."

 

[super-whois]

how?

You can ask to reset your vote.

 

[philliph]

When trust in Nominet is at a low, I don't understand why they haven't made an announcement about this mess. I'm assuming they are hoping people will forget about it/move on.

 

[webber]

When trust in Nominet is at a low, I don't understand why they haven't made an announcement about this mess. I'm assuming they are hoping people will forget about it/move on.

Don't expect an answer here, but certainly would expect one here:
https://forum.nominet.uk/forum/member-forum/technical/13772-the-great-uk-robbery

 

[Murray]

If I had participated in this (I haven't)

I would hold my hands up and say I was very naive, I trusted what the support team were saying

I would concede that being a registrar myself I should know the t&c, or at very least I should have thought to double check them before proceeding

Being naive however isn't a defence, any repercussions including damage to my reputation or standing as a Nominet registrar would be deserved.

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I wouldn't personally hold it against anyone for being naive but passing the buck is very unsavoury; how can you learn from your mistakes if you can't even admit to them

 

[webber]

Add shoes.uk to the list of suspicious last minute renewals
Registrant details were changed today:

Data validation: Registrant contact details waiting to be checked

 

[ian]

shoes.uk just renewed. I just hope a genuine renewal for this one as it wasn't an ROR domain.

 

[Systreg]

shoes.uk just renewed.

There are a number of org.uk's selling on DL, I'd send shoes.org.uk to auction if someone wants to make an advance bid on there.

 

[3gmedia]

Add shoes.uk to the list of suspicious last minute renewals
Registrant details were changed today:

I did think that was going to happen, I spotted it yesterday and thought here we go!

 

[ian]

Just spoke to Nominet live chat, looks like the .co.uk and .uk are the same registrant (The Shoot Shoe Company Ltd) and this was just a renewal by the .co.uk owner.

Hope Nominet didn't tell you the name of the owner, that would be an entirely seperate complaint lol

 

[webber]

Just spoke to Nominet live chat, looks like the .co.uk and .uk are the same registrant

At least one domain renewed this way had fake registrant contact details: company name matching the .co.uk, but fake individual name and address with the telephone number for Leaders Estate Agents
These need to be properly investigated and monitored by Nominet.

...registrant (The Shoot Shoe Company Ltd) and this was just a renewal by the .co.uk owner.

I would expect the registrant of shoes.co.uk and shoes.uk to be Shoes.co.uk Ltd as stated at http://www.shoes.co.uk/privacy-policy-i51 (ICO data controller registration number Z9535115)

 

[dee]

Add shoes.uk to the list of suspicious last minute renewals
Registrant details were changed today:

yep. I got a catcher email saying no longer available.

 

[Murray]

I spoke to Leon I know him well he didn’t sell this domain to anyone

everything bound over by the agreement of the .co.uk holder - that is all deliberately on record

That's quite conflicting

I am completely secure about things, and indeed Fasthosts have conceded that. Wizard, Leon should contact Nominet and Fasthosts. They have the facts.

Shouldn't he already have the facts if it was "bound over by the agreement" of himself?

Were you misled into thinking he approved of this transfer? was their any money exchanged? you called it a transaction

Just a wee transaction, gentlemen. There are many ways to skin a cat.

Leons details were posted after

If that's not the person you dealt with who was? wasn't that a red flag? or did you not deal with any individuals only Fasthosts?

 

[Hay]

Personally i don't believe Shoes.uk was renewed by Shoes.co.uk... it seems odd that all this time it has not been renewed yet the day before it drops there is a renewal pushed on the domain... These are end-users we are talking about and not domainers... us domainers are notorious for renewing domains at the last minute yet Shoes.co.uk has not claimed Shoes.uk in 5 years or more. So why would they suddenly claim it at the last minute? (Maybe im wrong) ... However, i know for a fact that people involved in the fasthost scandal "Have" been using fake registrant details therefore if your willing to use fake details then how hard is it to find the limited company details of shoes.co.uk and therefore set the registrant data to those details (One would suspect you just use a different email) ... The whole thing stinks and i suspect Shoes.uk is involved somewhere along the line.

Fasthosts will be able to quickly rule this out because if Shoes.co.uk did claim/renew Shoes.uk then it will be in the same account, my guess is they are both in separate accounts

 

[BG]

Personally i don't believe Shoes.uk was renewed by Shoes.co.uk... it seems odd that all this time it has not been renewed yet the day before it drops there is a renewal pushed on the domain... These are end-users we are talking about and not domainers... us domainers are notorious for renewing domains at the last minute yet Shoes.co.uk has not claimed Shoes.uk in 5 years or more. So why would they suddenly claim it at the last minute? (Maybe im wrong) ... However, i know for a fact that people involved in the fasthost scandal "Have" been using fake registrant details therefore if your willing to use fake details then how hard is it to find the limited company details of shoes.co.uk and therefore set the registrant data to those details (One would suspect you just use a different email) ... The whole thing stinks and i suspect Shoes.uk is involved somewhere along the line.

Fasthosts will be able to quickly rule this out because if Shoes.co.uk did claim/renew Shoes.uk then it will be in the same account, my guess is they are both in separate accounts

I don't think you're wrong at all! I think you're spot on!!

I seriously hope that Nominet don't push this whole debacle under the table and think it will go away!! Nominet need to take action and make an example of those people involved, whilst at the same time putting all those domains back into the pool or in users accounts - To say I would be ' p*ssed off 'if this happened to 'any' of my domains which were in a Fasthost account, would be a total understatement!!! I'd be absolutely livid and looking to take legal action 100% - This to me is no different to domain hijacking, no matter what spin you put on it, its thief!

 

[signature]

Is there a way to compile a list, may be create a separate thread with just the names in one place.

Below are the ones compile by @Whois-Search on his twitter feed:
sunset .uk
waterfall .uk
quest .uk
sharon .uk
tag .uk
sonic .uk
swipe .uk
par .uk
pad .uk
ultra .uk
shine .uk
pigeon .uk
peacock .uk
sparrow .uk
trending .uk
pyramid .uk
slam .uk
scratch .uk

Addition to the above list:
trident .uk - Still suspended
tct .uk - Still suspended
trm .uk - Still suspended
yummy .uk - Renewed

 

[Hay]

I have a full list of all the Fasthosts domains that did not drop and was renewed, i will post the entire list later...

 

[signature]

This must have been going on for a while, I suspect we only notice now due to large number of domains dropping.

Guys on here that knew about this, when did they find out, which domain name lead to the detection of this problem?

 

[cyberdomains]

This must have been going on for a while, I suspect we only notice now due to large number of domains dropping.

Guys on here that new about this, when did they find out, which domain name lead to the detection of this problem?

First two in my logs are:

2020-09-10 00:02:38.071049 Domain couch.uk caught by LIVEDOMAINS!
2020-09-10 16:45:30.052221 Domain charlie.uk caught by LIVEDOMAINS!

 

[Hay]

@cyberpunk lol you need to change your code, they wasnt caught mate... they didnt drop