R.I.P Mrs Thatcher

[GreyWing]

Loving the #nowthatchersdead hashtag. Everyone thinks Cher is dead!

lol, haha that is pretty funny. I never spotted that.

 

[Pred]

I was picking coal of the side of the Railway banks at the age of 4 because of the miners strike. I come from Barnsley, the most Anti-Thatcher place on earth. My Dad worked for the NCB and private mining industry after it was privatised in 1993. He laughs at people who go on about this, he preferred the private Mining industry, better pay and a lot safer. He said because there were fewer unions, the dangerous idiots got sacked. People used to come out on strike in the 1970's because the Sun was out, "sunshine strikers".

What communities did she destroy? Time destroyed those communities in the same way it would have destroyed a village that was based around producing the Sinclair Spectrum... adapt and overcome or die, they didn't do either.

The worst thing Thatcher did for the working class was allowing the Grammar Schools to be closed. The one true thing that got the poor out of poverty, in fact got her to becoming PM.

Also not sure which Paedophiles you are on about, if it was the Lord Mc case then that has been shown to be utter nonsense.

What I mam noticing is people hate her or love her, but they knew what she stood for. What on earth these lot stand for today, I have no idea.

what communities did she destroy?
Are you serious

time didn't destroy those communities
thatcher did
were you asleep in the 80's

we're standing on 1000 years of coal
but because we're tied into Europe which Heath and Thatcher took us into we can't use our own energy

we have huge energy problems and dance around the world staging illegal wars beause of oil
we could be self sufficient
because of europe we can't use it and 'climate change' laws

we face blackouts soon as successive regimes/governments have failed wholesale in planning in this area
now even after fukushima when other countries like germany have said no more nuclear, we are planning to cover the country in nuclear being run by foreign countries like the french!

i hate labour as much as tory, but they have a mafia like grip on the country
trust me i hate blair more than thatcher

we deserve better

i wouldnt say it was divided the views on thatcher, you will see millions happy and partying that thatcher is dead as she caused so much misery

some tory supporters and the bbc will wheel out their garbage about thatcher

she gets credit for falklads, but lets be honest theres probably never been a time when we couldnt spank the argies, same as now
and they know it

but the sheep gathered round thatcher, its why so many pms love going to war, to win votes
if you dont support them you're a traitor
I think we finally grew out of that with Blair

as far as the Lord Mc case
don't fall for the con story
have to be careful what we say but spend 10 minutes of your time looking into past cabinet members of thatchers, now deasd who categorically were
also look at the coverup that happened under, guess who, hagues watch
also it was lord mc brother who was the likely party, again dead
again, mcalp art dealer friend who he owned artwork from, ovenden, just been found guilty
and so it goes on

unfortunately most people read the mail, sun etc, bbc and spout the same shit theyre fed

add to that the now draconian laws we have on not being able to protest without permission, people getting arrested for a tweet or instagram, this climate we live in now is worse than 1984
it is truly orwellian

everyone is entitled to their views
I live in derbyshire and communities were destroyed and the pits that were closed and bought back by miners who believed in it are flourishing

one thing agree on is labour and tories you can get a cigarette paper between , run by clowns
miliband and cameron are so weak, (too young imo) with virtually no life experience, and zero charisma, and no plan it would seem

I could talk all day about it.......

 

[Pred]

Churchill was an absolute Madman, often found drunk and on Benzedrine. His schemes were far fetched and killed many Australians and New Zealanders at Gallipoli in WWI. He got voted out for a reason after WWII, he was lucky to not be ousted whilst in power during the war.

A bit of time and Hollywood did the rest for Churchill, most of the speeches associated with him are not his own. Whilst a determined man, he was lucky that Britain needed a mad man in 1940, because he was genuinely mad.

I have watched interviews with ex servicemen who indeed say some of his speeches we are recited now and fawned over, thay used to fall about laughing with embarrassment over lol

yes, i know a lot about Churchill and am aware of the thousands he had gassed, mustard gas etc
but we won the war with him, bottom line

but you say mad, one of the reasons he got voted in, even though he spent time in all 3 parties, was he was one of the few people shouting from the rooftops about what was about to happen in germany and europe
and everyone rubbished him

remmebr nveille chamberlain? peace in our time
lets not forget the royals?

or how about the england football team , the three lions in 1938?

bottomline the same shit was going on then as now
the governments weren't running thing

think hitler rearmed and rebuilt a devastated german economy on fresh air?

it was the UK and the US banks and backers pumping shitloads of cash into hitlers regime


anyway digressing too much
I know churchill was a drunk and was wheeled out for speeches etc
but he was the man for the job at the time


we shouldn't even be talking about thatcher in the same sentence

trust me, she has been protected for a long time

now shes dead, some serious shit will be coming out

 

[GreyWing]

Too much there for me to reply to mate, but guess we'll have to agree to disagree on it.. Politely though

 

[websaway]

what communities did she destroy?
Are you serious

time didn't destroy those communities
thatcher did
were you asleep in the 80's

we're standing on 1000 years of coal
but because we're tied into Europe which Heath and Thatcher took us into we can't use our own energy

we have huge energy problems and dance around the world staging illegal wars beause of oil
we could be self sufficient
because of europe we can't use it and 'climate change' laws

we face blackouts soon as successive regimes/governments have failed wholesale in planning in this area
now even after fukushima when other countries like germany have said no more nuclear, we are planning to cover the country in nuclear being run by foreign countries like the french!

i hate labour as much as tory, but they have a mafia like grip on the country
trust me i hate blair more than thatcher

we deserve better

i wouldnt say it was divided the views on thatcher, you will see millions happy and partying that thatcher is dead as she caused so much misery

some tory supporters and the bbc will wheel out their garbage about thatcher

she gets credit for falklads, but lets be honest theres probably never been a time when we couldnt spank the argies, same as now
and they know it

but the sheep gathered round thatcher, its why so many pms love going to war, to win votes
if you dont support them you're a traitor
I think we finally grew out of that with Blair

as far as the Lord Mc case
don't fall for the con story
have to be careful what we say but spend 10 minutes of your time looking into past cabinet members of thatchers, now deasd who categorically were
also look at the coverup that happened under, guess who, hagues watch
also it was lord mc brother who was the likely party, again dead
again, mcalp art dealer friend who he owned artwork from, ovenden, just been found guilty
and so it goes on

unfortunately most people read the mail, sun etc, bbc and spout the same shit theyre fed

add to that the now draconian laws we have on not being able to protest without permission, people getting arrested for a tweet or instagram, this climate we live in now is worse than 1984
it is truly orwellian

everyone is entitled to their views
I live in derbyshire and communities were destroyed and the pits that were closed and bought back by miners who believed in it are flourishing

one thing agree on is labour and tories you can get a cigarette paper between , run by clowns
miliband and cameron are so weak, (too young imo) with virtually no life experience, and zero charisma, and no plan it would seem

I could talk all day about it.......

Problem is we will never know what the outcome would have been if Scargill had have run the company.

 

[websaway]

well, everyone views things differently, bit of a non argument
what you have to do is educate yourself as to the truth

churchill for all his faults is almost certainly regarded and quite rightly so a hero
far from perfect but one of the greates Britons ever
he shouldn't even be mentioned in a thatcher thread imo

now take the time to look into what i said in my post and listen to the link and do some research
if you're not suitably disgusted and horrified, check your compass

I hadn't intended to argue, I can't change the minority view on the ladies qualities or what she did by taking the UK by the scruff of the neck and restoring it's international dignity. I'm not really sure I want or need to.
But it's easy to get things perfect retrospectively.

 

[monaghan]

I'm increasingly of the opinion that it doesn't matter who's in charge, they undo what the last lot did regardless of whether it works or not and do their own thing and then tart it up to win votes later on and then we repeat the cycle so nothing actually goes forward.

Regardless of politics, Mrs T had family & friends who must be hurting at all the aggression being vented over the Internet at her death.

 

[Pred]

Problem is we will never know what the outcome would have been if Scargill had have run the company.

answering a 500 word diatribe with a vague random sentence
maybe you should become a politician?!

lol

just kidding

scargill was a twat too
most union leaders end up same as politicians
it's a human trait, power and fame and greed
it destroys many

not all

anyway, enough time spent discussing this old witch
good riddance
no point arguing about labour or tory
they are not part of the solution, they are part of the problem

 

[Nigel]

sorry to hear this news

I think Maggie did a lot of good for this country when we needed strong leadership. Of course she made a few mistakes - signing the single European act was, in my view, a step too far. But I've got a lot of respect for her, and after a life in the spotlight, her family can be proud of her political career and input to British politics. Even when her opponents vilified her she maintained her dignity.

 

[Retired_member41]

Rust in peace Iron Lady.

Ding Dong the witch is dead.

Couple of nice posts ive just read

 

[Sound]

How symbolic Thatcher died at Ritz as special guest of a couple of millionaire tax-avoiders. Not playing pass-the-parcel in a nursing home.

 

[GreyWing]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGVkDLD0PaM

Got to laugh at how far some people go.. I disagree with it off course but laughing at the guy not his message.

 

[dashu1]

During the miners strike some friends of mine took time out from the 6th form and went to one of the strikes.

What they witnessed was the police on horseback charge the miners, then the furious miners pick up stones etc and throw them at the police.

When they saw it on the BBC news it showed the miners throwing stones at the police first, and the police charging them in response.

Don't trust what you don't see with your own eyes eh?

Just found it in the Guardian actually: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/oct/22/police-violence-orgreave-miners-truth

 

[retired_member33]

Disgusted by some of the comments I read on the different Social Media and websites...Whether you liked her or not, it doesn't cost you anything to show a bit of respect for someone who has passed away

 

[GreyWing]

During the miners strike some friends of mine took time out from the 6th form and went to one of the strikes.

What they witnessed was the police on horseback charge the miners, then the furious miners pick up stones etc and throw them at the police.

When they saw it on the BBC news it showed the miners throwing stones at the police first, and the police charging them in response.

Don't trust what you don't see with your own eyes eh?

Just found it in the Guardian actually: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/oct/22/police-violence-orgreave-miners-truth

Mate, stories get stranger that that. My mate was a Inspector with the local Police at the time. The Police officers in his command were paying his brother (a mechanic) money to fix the cars of the strikers for free, so the striking miners could get to the riots. The Police somewhat enjoyed the overtime payments the riots were generating

 

[dashu1]

Mate, stories get stranger that that. My mate was a Inspector with the local Police at the time. The Police officers in his command were paying his brother (a mechanic) money to fix the cars of the strikers for free, so the striking miners could get to the riots. The Police somewhat enjoyed the overtime payments the riots were generating

LoL my uncle was an inspector at the time in West Yorkshire and he loved it too for the overtime.

 

[boxerdog]

disgusted by some of the comments i read on the different social media and websites...whether you liked her or not, it doesn't cost you anything to show a bit of respect for someone who has passed away

+100!!

 

[Edwin]

Disgusted by some of the comments I read on the different Social Media and websites...Whether you liked her or not, it doesn't cost you anything to show a bit of respect for someone who has passed away

Well said, quite agree. People have had 23 years since she left office to have their say - take a break for a few days, at least!

 

[websaway]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGVkDLD0PaM

Got to laugh at how far some people go.. I disagree with it off course but laughing at the guy not his message.

A bit disrespectful
I wonder if he bought his council house.

 

[Brassneck]

Disgusted by some of the comments I read on the different Social Media and websites...Whether you liked her or not, it doesn't cost you anything to show a bit of respect for someone who has passed away

I agree 100 per cent. Well said.