Interesting Fact

[jalpope]

even if he did have one why would he want to publically announce it

Who gives a sh*t about the feature. I just want to know one thing, how does Jonno manage to breath with his head so far up Vizzy's arse.

 

[Admin]

can we keep this thread civilised please.....

 

[jonno]

Who gives a sh*t about the feature. I just want to know one thing, how does Jonno manage to breath with his head so far up Vizzy's arse.

i'm stating facts - i'm up noones arse.

the fact is the only evidence people have here is that the addresses of 2 nominet members are closely located. i'm fed up with people on here pointing fingers and presenting crap evidence.

 

[retired_member9]

jonno: there is no need to talk to pigs, leave them rest in their mud.

not only skills are unwelcomed on this forum, but also people with the abilities of clear thinking at least!

 

[paravan]

Fact 1. According to the Nominet IT director DAC is free of bugs or features.
Fact 2. You yourself stated that you found a feature (c)
Fact 3. you used this feauture when the last prenom occurred and is used it today.
Fact 4. I understand that vizzy don't need to give this feauture public, but this is a clear signal for nominet that there is a feature.
Fact 5. I only call someone a pig if he is not man enough to state the facts.

TurNIC aka Paravan

 

[retired_member11]

Fact 1. According to the Nominet IT director DAC is free of bugs or features.
Fact 2. You yourself stated that you found a feature (c)
Fact 3. you used this feauture when the last prenom occurred and is used it today.
Fact 4. I understand that vizzy don't need to give this feauture public, but this is a clear signal for nominet that there is a feature.
Fact 5. I only call someone a pig if he is not man enough to state the facts.

TurNIC aka Paravan

'feature'?

Do you mean an unintended 'eccentricity' of the system, or a back door?


Question:

Who writes the code for the Automaton (i.e. who is Nominet employing to create and update the Automaton)?

 

[Jac]

I'll second that.

the fact is the only evidence people have here is that the addresses of 2 nominet members are closely located. i'm fed up with people on here pointing fingers and presenting crap evidence.

I'll second that!

Regards
James Conaghan

 

[Whois-Search]

How do you suggest we get more evidence then ?

We don't have access to the DAC log - so what can we use ?

We all know what goes on........

Here are a few more "addresses":

1. + 2. http://whois.domaintools.com/yeek.com


1. http://195.66.240.211/cgi-bin/whois.cgi?query=signposts.co.uk
2. http://195.66.240.211/cgi-bin/whois.cgi?query=etude.co.uk

 

[retired_member11]

Who writes the Automaton code?

 

[jonno]

How do you suggest we get more evidence then ?

We don't have access to the DAC log - so what can we use ?

We all know what goes on........

Here are a few more "addresses":

1. + 2. http://whois.domaintools.com/yeek.com


1. http://195.66.240.211/cgi-bin/whois.cgi?query=signposts.co.uk
2. http://195.66.240.211/cgi-bin/whois.cgi?query=etude.co.uk

Yes we all know what goes on - we all know that some people have multiple memberships. We all see those 20 'prenom' tags come out on prenom day - [usually in the essex, milton keynes and swansea areas]. However simply showing postcodes is not evidence of anti-avoidance breach.

We don't have access to any logs, however nominet do - so maybe it's worth emailing them about your concerns instead of pointing fingers on here?

 

[Jac]

Jay Daley already answered this one in a previous post.

Yes we all know what goes on - we all know that some people have multiple memberships. We all see those 20 'prenom' tags come out on prenom day - [usually in the essex, milton keynes and swansea areas]. However simply showing postcodes is not evidence of anti-avoidance breach.

We don't have access to any logs, however nominet do - so maybe it's worth emailing them about your concerns instead of pointing fingers on here?

Nominet already know about Whois-Search's and other concerns and keep a watchful eye on the DAC, PRSS and its other systems to identify 'abusers' of said systems. However, from a security standpoint it is unlikely Nominet would openly discuss what they do or do not do to protect the integrity of their systems. That could be akin to giving the burglar a key to your house and the combination to your safe.

It seems some people prefer to believe they don't, but just thinking that Nominet doesn't, doesn't change the fact that Nominet does.

Regards
James Conaghan

 

[Whois-Search]

How about if I went next door (both sides) and paid for my neighbours to become Nominet members with a DAC........ then took them round a Linux Box each and plugged it into their net connection.......I could even pickup their routers up on wireless connection to access the Linux boxes.........then everyday I could share the query lists etc

I would then have 3 times the DAC quota to hammer Nominet with to make lists for deleting.co.uk

Nominet won't do anything because we are "individual Nominet members" with different ip addresses. All you guys could prove is that we have the same Postcode!

If you can't beat them, join them........

 

[retired_member11]

The solution is for Nominet to author an Automaton download package for Tag holders. No third party scripts allowed. End of bitching.

 

[jonno]

The solution is for Nominet to author an Automaton download package for Tag holders. No third party scripts allowed. End of bitching.

come on get a grip. drop catching is competative business, just like any other competative business sector on the planet.

that's like saying ford, vauxhall, volkswagen and ferrari are only allowed equal proportions of the market, and each manufacturer has to use the same advertising material, engines, wheels body styles etc.

in addition - with your suggestion what is stopping people registering more than one membership?

 

[retired_member11]

Nothing, but if having more than one membership is the only way to gain an illicit advantage then it would be easy for Nominet to know who to monitor.

 

[newbie]

Is it not all about how quick the response is once the DAC has said a domain is available?

if my script detects a domain available and it takes 20ms to get the email encrypted and delivered then it doesn't matter how many times i check for the domain for availability if the people I am competing with can get their email out in 10ms?

So even if I had 10 TAGS, I still couldn't get my email to nominet fast enough.

I've tried plenty to improve my script but cannot compete very well at all and I don't think having more TAGs would make any noticable difference except I could watch (and lose the race to) a larger number of domains, but my email response would still be too slow to actually get the domain.

So it's not just about multiple tags really is it?

 

[Slater]

So even if I had 10 TAGS, I still couldn't get my email to nominet fast enough.

If the othet party had access to 10 DAC accounts over a 24hr period they could query the DAC every 20ms, even if your script only took 1ms to send a PGP email to Nominet the other person would still beat you based on them queerying the DAC every 20ms.

 

[aquanuke]

and it takes 20ms to get the email encrypted and delivered

Best to work on getting your email sending times down then to fork out on more TAGS

How about you get the email encrypted before the domain drops.

 

[paul]

and it takes 20ms to get the email encrypted and delivered

You could always try this, works for me every time

 

[tifosi]

Is that a joystick or are you just pleased to see me?