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Current betting odds 4/1 on leave and 1/7 on remain.
True, but that probably wouldn't get the policy implemented.
Far easier & much quicker to vote 'leave' in the referendum, if that is a policy people want.
There's the option to punish them for that at the next General Election.
"What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world and suffers the loss of his own soul "BTW, there was mention earlier in this thread that the case for "remain" has been poorly articulated. I found this summary very helpful...
http://www.cambridgeforeurope.co.uk/2016/03/30/116-reasons-to-vote-in/
Edwin's argument, and he always likes statistics and analysis, reminds me of the argument of science against the existence of god, put up all the scientific evidence of why god does not exist and still if you believe in god it will not change your mind.
Edwin's argument, and he always likes statistics and analysis, reminds me of the argument of science against the existence of god, put up all the scientific evidence of why god does not exist and still if you believe in god it will not change your mind.
Interesting piece by David Mitchell on Richard Dawkins' opinion: http://www.theguardian.com/commenti...rliament-leaders-david-cameron-david-mitchell
Undecideds are unlikely to be outers. Outers will have already made up their minds based overwhelmingly on Sovereignty and Immigration, the right to determine the countries future for their children's children. If there are not enough of them now they will not win the referendum. My view is that every outer who knows 10 people who want out should ferry them to the polling station on June 23, I believe that is the only way to win. I believe the inners will have a large proportion of people who can't be bothered to vote and that obviously will benefit the out vote. A man went to the doctor, he had money problems and was suffering from severe depression, the doctor advised him to take an extended holiday in Monaco where there was statistically a much lower degree of depression. That kind of reminds me of the advice economists give to people who have serious concerns about uncontrolled immigration.Yes, it does feel a bit like that
Only, I'm neither arrogant nor optimistic enough to expect to persuade anyone who's already firmly made up their mind to change their opinion. I'm no more likely or equipped to do so than a brexiter is to persuade me to change mine!
However, I still hold out a faint hope of gently influencing the "undecideds" reading this thread to at least look at some of the data before making a decision...
Dawkins elaborated a couple of days ago when asked about it on Reddit:"Don’t misunderstand me, I know how I’m going to vote – I’m for Remain. I’m unshakable on that. I just don’t know if I’m right. And I also don’t know if the side I’m going to vote for will win. I fear the consequences of its defeat and, to a lesser but still significant extent, I fear the consequences of its victory. I’m not finding any of this much fun." - David Mitchell.
Reminds me of this graphic which I saw a while ago.
Many people expect Ukip to merge with the Tories to create a very formidable right wing bloc in British politics.
They are effectively saying "the EU will do more for workers' rights & social justice than a Labour government will", so what's the point in voting Labour ever again?
The in's will be claiming next that the EU gave us inside toilets.
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