DL Sale: paydaylender.co.uk (300 GBP)

[Murray]

Are you going to do something with the .uk?
What value would you put on monkey.co.uk, now it has been trashed?

I presume it's bring'backable from a google point of view

Their beef would be with the domains owner and it's use, rather than the domain itself.

I would like to think if it was sold to a company who wanted to use it legitimately (when I say legitimately, at least in googles eyes in the sense not for spam or to manipulate search results) then they would lift the penalties and redindex it.

 

[Retired_Member38]

Are you going to do something with the .uk?
What value would you put on monkey.co.uk, now it has been trashed?





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Hard to say. Someone else might put value on it if they felt they could recover it, and/or scrap the project completely and build something else on it. I'm not going to do anything with the .uk

 

[Murray]

Hard to say. Someone else might put value on it if they felt they could recover it, and/or scrap the project completely and build something else on it. I'm not going to do anything with the .uk

I will give you a bitcoin for it?

 

[Retired_Member38]

A company that's not into comparing car insurance yet, but has successful online brands in other niches should buy carinsurance.co.uk and develop it. I've got a feeling it can be a quick success profitwise at a fraction of a budget that gocompare, comparethemarket type domains would need before producing profit if executed correctly. I think it's instant trusted, authoritative brand in a box and definitely worth a punt for someone.
But that's the only domain I'm defending. creditcards.co.uk, paydayloans.co.uk or even mortgages.co.uk I would not be as excited about

Can you give an example of a company that would be a good fit to buy/develop carinsurance.co.uk?

I'm just not feeling it when anyone says it could be a success at a fraction of the budget of go compare etc. Without that type of huge budget you're not going to be seen as a brand and you're going to be open to being dumped from the serps as a thinnish affiliate and offering no real value.

From the other domains you're quoting I think I'd rather own paydayloans.co.uk or mortgages.co.uk before I owned car insurance. Credit cards is the worst of them all - probably wouldn't have been the case several years ago though.

 

[topcat]

If your Monkey domain has a manual penalty, I'll recover it for you

All it requires is a bit of persistence.

 

[scooter]

and a brand new presence, ip addy and maybe a new registrant?



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[scooter]

Does registrant come in to it?
Does google look at registrant details when a site is penalised?



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[Skinner]

I have to say I am curious how monkey would value monkey.co.uk/.uk, given the current circumstances vs what he valued it when he bought it.

I suspect some will be interested in purchasing it and rolling the dice, but given your stance that for a brand both are essential and the fact the .co.uk is trashed in your words, leaving the .uk almost alone. Its kind of a unique situation.

 

[Retired_Member38]

I have to say I am curious how monkey would value monkey.co.uk/.uk, given the current circumstances vs what he valued it when he bought it.

I suspect some will be interested in purchasing it and rolling the dice, but given your stance that for a brand both are essential and the fact the .co.uk is trashed in your words, leaving the .uk almost alone. Its kind of a unique situation.

Its a hard one to answer really. I paid £14k or so for the .co.uk when .uk didn't exist. Even if you take the opinion that the .co.uk is penalised to the extent it can never recover with a new owner (I don't think that, but just for talking sake lets assume it to be true as its the worst case scenario), then its not easy to value is it?

You're really betting for/against the .uk taking over .co.uk use in general. If that happens then you have an absolutely clean .uk domain, and you also have the .co.uk to sweep up any typos. The fact its penalised won't matter as you wouldn't actively be developing it. If this scenario did play out then I think my original £14k price was a fair value for the domain, so the new pairing would be in that ballpark.

If you think .co.uk wins long term then you need to clean up the .co.uk then that adds risk to the purchase, so the value of the pair of domains would be less than £14k to reflect that.

Of course if someone thinks the full Monkey project is salvageable then they may want to gamble on taking it all over.... who knows how much that is/was worth?

 

[Murray]

Does registrant come in to it?
Does google look at registrant details when a site is penalised?



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I think they look far beyond just registrant details to link sites together as having the same owner.

https://www.seroundtable.com/google-other-sites-penalty-18228.html

 

[Stas]

Can you give an example of a company that would be a good fit to buy/develop carinsurance.co.uk?

I'm just not feeling it when anyone says it could be a success at a fraction of the budget of go compare etc. Without that type of huge budget you're not going to be seen as a brand and you're going to be open to being dumped from the serps as a thinnish affiliate and offering no real value.

From the other domains you're quoting I think I'd rather own paydayloans.co.uk or mortgages.co.uk before I owned car insurance. Credit cards is the worst of them all - probably wouldn't have been the case several years ago though.

Just any company with a history of big spend with Google might do. Or some trusted car brand like pistonheads.com. Brand or no brand, if it gets to the top of SERPs and has a company behind it that Google has to listen to and help get back to rankings, they build a site that looks deserving to rank and doesn't make Google look too silly ranking it, content-wise or backlink-wise the site gets to top 3 and stays there thanks to exact match benefit, then that already will be good outcome profit-wise and a success? And it doesn't have a 0 chance of being a brand, it can be.

(I've not been asleep for 2 years I know exact match bonus is not the same but it should still help with page 1 war. )

 

[scooter]

You're really betting for/against the .uk taking over .co.uk use in general. If that happens then you have an absolutely clean .uk domain, and you also have the .co.uk to sweep up any typos. The fact its penalised won't matter as you wouldn't actively be developing it.

Surely you would not want to be pointing the co.uk anywhere near the .uk if the co.uk is penalised?

Would you not need to get the co.uk back on google first, with either scenario?



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[Retired_Member38]

Surely you would not want to be pointing the co.uk anywhere near the .uk if the co.uk is penalised?

Would you not need to get the co.uk back on google first, with either scenario?



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You could just put a "you're on the wrong domain. Visit blah.uk" on a penalised .co.uk. You're not linking to it or passing any of the bad links to it, but you're not throwing away type in traffic either. I think thats the best (only?) solution if you want to use one when the other is burnt.

Getting both back in Google would be nice but if you think the .uk wins long term anyway then why bother? You're just spending time and money when you don't need to. And if you've work on the .co.uk for years and years and done bulk spam stuff like directory submissions or whatever, it might be beyond redemption anyway.

 

[Retired_Member42]

Nothing is beyond Redemption.

 

[Retired_Member38]

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[Retired_Member42]

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