Disgusting Domainlore

[RobM]

I would hate to think that people couldn't buy domains due to 'moral' reasoning of others. One opinion of what's right or wrong outside of the law should not be forced on people who might not hold the same opinion. Thankfully we can make individual choices.

 

[jasman]

Based on the logic exhibited by many in this thread it appears that Amazon could be accused of profiting from the dictionary word.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/1847883540/?tag=acorn06-21 (and others).

Methinks you doth protest too much

 

[Retired_Member39]

Mods, probably abit harsh having Domainlore labaled disgusting in the thread title because of one domain which has now been removed.

 

[Retired_Member39]

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[aZooZa]

My 2p: I agree with the OP. Vile and in unconscionable bad taste at best. I'm happy not to see filth and degradation of animals discussed here or anywhere else.

 

[aZooZa]

I'm surprised at your opinion as I would have thought you'd concur with many of the comments I've raised, yet have been unanswered. Fundementally a mere domain name registration, or an entry in a dictionary is neither offensive or harmful. Neither are the same as the act. The OP wasn't even educated enough to know that "beastility" (sic) isn't a word. I'm all about educating and openess than sweeping such things under the carpet and pretending they don't exist.


(from iPhone)

David, I've stated my opinion and acknowledged that it was only worth tuppence. I'd love to spend time debating the issues so relentlessly like you have done; but stooping to the vernacular, I have other shit to do. No personal offence meant.

 

[aZooZa]

I never took offense. Out of interest did you happen to contribute to Nominet's consultation in relation to potentially banning potentially offensive terms from .uk domain names?


(from iPhone)

No, I was too busy and moderately disinterested. What time is it over there now? Don't you ever sleep? Or are you in finer climes like me?

 

[Murray]

I have the following to ask:.

I'm not going to directly answer your questions but give my brief thoughts on the whole thing.

A lot of rules in life we live by that aren't illegal, but we don't do them because they aren't socially and morally acceptable.

You would (at least I would) like to think someone wouldn't want to profit directly from a word like bestiality that relates only to animal abuse, so there shouldn't have to be a rule/law against it.

I also find it troubling when people are trying to sell names like treatcancer.co.uk

But opening the door to banning words from being registered is troublesome because where does it start and end.

I would need to hear more ideas of better ways of dealing with the issue, perhaps a reporting system.. but I'm not sure how the review board who would decide whether a domain is or isn't acceptably registered.

I myself argue there is no legitimate use for registering bestiality, but if you start needing a legitimate reason for registering a domain name that is also opening a very dangerous door..

So I guess people should be free to register anything they like, but rightly so you shouldn't be free from peer scrutiny.

 

[khalid]

Just jumped to the end after seeing it moved from Domain Lore to personal registrations and the morales behind them.

I know one domainer who purposely holds certain "questionable" domains and forwards them to a holding page to avoid undesirable individuals buying them.

He feels it is some sort of morale duty because he earns a living off domains.

Thought I would throw that in the ring.

 

[aZooZa]

05:05 in the UK. I've been busy working on something until late. I cannot yet undo the caffiene. I hope you're well.

Fine, thanks - you too :wink:

 

[kate-brownhill]

Just jumped to the end after seeing it moved from Domain Lore to personal registrations and the morales behind them.

I know one domainer who purposely holds certain "questionable" domains and forwards them to a holding page to avoid undesirable individuals buying them.

He feels it is some sort of morale duty because he earns a living off domains.

Thought I would throw that in the ring.

We do this with some domains. Even try and convert bad into good.

i.e recently quickly put this up after some clients begged us to carry out negative SEO attacks on their competitors. The lowest of the low in my opinion. : http://www.negativeseo.pro Written in a bit of a hurry and over dramatic but always with the target audience in mind

 

[namealot]

Whilst bestiality may be in the dictionary doubt it’s used as a selling point in the same way as would be for the domain name? Names like this don’t do the industry any favours, Defending right of registrant to register just gives more ammunition to bring in tougher censorship no win for anyone..

The registration also brings a whole new meaning to old McDonald had a farm

 

[grantw]

What a load of b*llocks! I guess Nominet are trying to please the government but this looks like a complete waste of time and money.

bestiality.co.uk - not allowed

howtomakeabomb.co.uk - absolutely fine

Bad move by Nominet agreeing to this nonsense in my opinion. What happens now when some other government bod turns up with a new list of words he doesn't like!

Grant

 

[Skinner]

I think I'll form an orderly queue behind scott on the way out, I own no such domains affected by this, but how long before other names get caught in this ?

The slope is slippery and we're on it.

 

[Edwin]

What a load of b*llocks! I guess Nominet are trying to please the government but this looks like a complete waste of time and money.

bestiality.co.uk - not allowed

howtomakeabomb.co.uk - absolutely fine

Bad move by Nominet agreeing to this nonsense in my opinion. What happens now when some other government bod turns up with a new list of words he doesn't like!

Exactly. Your second example is "allowed" today, but who can say about tomorrow or the day after? The censorship itself isn't a massive issue (ok, it's not great to see any sort of restraint imposed, but few would argue with the intent of the current narrow remit) but it's the total and complete lack of transparency that is the elephant in the room.

If Nominet posted a list saying "these 15 terms will automatically get your domain name reviewed within 48 hours" then that's a much less worrying situation than them saying "we're not going to tell you what's on this secret list" because in the latter case it could grow to 100, 1000, 1000000 terms and nobody would be any the wiser.

Smacks of 1984 and thoughtcrime.

 

[Skinner]

I own bomb.co.uk, bomber.co.uk, semtex.co.uk and a bunch of others, I can see the very things grant mentions coming, hence the slope.

 

[Edwin]

Looking at the list of example terms a couple of posts back, the following would be subject to further manual review:

redgrapes.co.uk
beautytherapist.co.uk

 

[Edwin]

I own bomb.co.uk, bomber.co.uk, semtex.co.uk and a bunch of others, I can see the very things grant mentions coming, hence the slope.

Perhaps I shouldn't renew nuclearweapons.co.uk

 

[Edwin]

There's also no reference to misspellings so "beastiality" domain names (that's a misspelling of bestiality), and apparently has offended at least two different members here in the past, wouldn't be banned.

For the first 10 minutes. The first phone call to Nominet about an offending domain like the one that started this thread off and they'll fire up the text editor and add another match clause to the filter.

As I said, the objectionable part for me is the secrecy of the list of filtered terms, not the fact that there will be a filter. If it is open for anyone to look at any time, it's totally different from keeping it secret.

 

[anthony]

Again we see Nominet, an organisation about as detached from its end customers as any organisation could ever be, approving decisions without any consultation mechanism with the same.