Disgusting Domainlore

[DaveP]

Invincible you're making no sense. The domain isn't commercially viable, end of. Wotsit is a much better domain. I sometimes can't help but feel you love trolling?

 

[The Ferryman]

That's why you can go into a police station, speak the word and walk back out.

Pigs is a much less controversial word than bestiality, or even beastiality, but would you walk into a police station and say "pigs" and walk back out?
Regards
Bruce

 

[Murray]

I certainly know that the mere registration of a domain name does not suggest that a web site will be "placed on it".

What would someone want it for if they don't want to put a site on it, to sell?

Who would you sell it to and what would the buyer put on it? and if they don't want to put anything on it, why would they want to buy it.

 

[Murray]

Not all domain name registrations are commercial viable and there is no reason that they should have to be. Many things aren't. I wouldn't buy a property in Paulsgrove for example.

Around in circles..

What would someone want the domain name for?

 

[The Ferryman]

..but the fact that the Registrant registered it, then tried to sell it, gives a clue to their intentions.
Regards
Bruce

 

[The Ferryman]

... and stating the bl**din' obvious takes the story forward how?
Regards
Bruce

 

[humbug1s1k]

I thought I'd step in as the owner of the domain to state my case. Firstly I would like to apologise to anyone on this site that may have been offended by the domain in question, this is a fantastic site for info etc and I would hate to think that I have offended anyone on here as there are some very knowledgeable people on here providing excellent info and advice. Secondly I am a very small domainer who buys and sells domains as a hobby, I am aware of the typo and registered the domain purely on searches (there are some sick and depraved people out there!) and number of extensions taken. I personally am a family man, I have 2 children, and live with my partner who also has a small child. I do NOT condone anything illegal (except maybe the odd speeding........though I'm not admiting to anything officer!!), however I am of the opinion that a word is just that, a word and there may or may not be a buyer for anything on the net, what that buyer does with that once it leaves my possession is up to them........in the same instance a shop will quite gladly sell a knife to a person without asking them the intention of the use......Some will say that that is a very irresponsible attitude to have but we all have differing opinions, and mine is that we are all adults, and make our own choices.

Anyway I've rabbited on enough, it was just a small post to say sorry to those I have offended.......anyone want the domain 'Hairclip.co.uk' (ok ok cheap shot, but hey we're all here to make money right....right!)

 

[DaveP]

You won't make any money from this domain though, it's a daft registration, simple as that.

 

[Skinner]

While I'm not quite sure I agree with invincible on this particular name.

Nominet is clearly split on it, on the one hand they use ChildAbuse.co.uk as their case against registration controls to the out-of-touch-sensationalist-minister, where a name is clearly offensive but used well. On the other hand they suspend and block from dropping potentially illegal domain names even when said name had legit usage. Clearly its a case by case thing for them.

However in this case, I'm not sure I can think of a legit use of the name in question.

Edit: humbug1s1k, google everything, see what products, what adverts are there, and what can be put on there, may save you some money

 

[DaveP]

I'm not the one looking to make any money from the domain name so feel free to redirect your concern to more pressing problems back at home.

I wasn't even responding to you but thanks though.

 

[DaveP]

You're mistakenly linking domain name registration and domain name resolution, I feel. A mere domain name registration of a dictionary word is not illegal. I've given an example of a freedom we have in .uk in comparison to .tm. That's a good enough reason for me. The examples you are possibly referring to may be of domain names that infringed trademarks.

I'm pretty sure this thread was created on the basis of morality, not legality so not sure why you keep spitting out legal nonsense..

 

[Murray]

It isn't "nonsense". The registration of a dictionary word as a domain name is amoral.

Morals are a personal thing.

Saying morals should be based purely on what is and isn't legal is a childish argument.

 

[retired_member33]

Am I the only one who enjoys having sex with a hamster?

Come on..What is this thread about? A domain which has search volume and which is being offered for sale... I am pretty sure some of the members here have way worse domains in their portfolio.

 

[Murray]

Am I the only one who enjoys having sex with a hamster?

Come on..What is this thread about? A domain which has search volume and which is being offered for sale... I am pretty sure some of the members here have way worse domains in their portfolio.

It's not black and white in my mind.

To me the domain relates only to animal abuse and I would not want to make money via something related to animal abuse.

 

[Murray]

Will you be campaigning for Nominet to ban such registrations

It's a tough one because as I said it's not black and white.

I have no problem with a name like animalabuse.co.uk being held by an animal charity where people can report incidents or donate etc

But I can see no legitimate use or reason to register a name like bestiality (including misspelled variations). You couldn't seem to come up with one either? since I asked twice and you gave no answer.

dictionary publishers to redact out such entries?

A domain names purpose and a dictionary definition are two very different things.

As I keep saying, it's not black and white, but apparently your mind can only understand black and white

 

[Murray]

Ok your argument is

"because they can because it's legal "

My opinion is that I wouldn't like to make money from anything related to animal abuse.

Can't see the discussion going anywhere.

 

[WalkinDude]

Always thought certain domains shouldn't even be made available to register. Can't be that hard to put together a list and simply take them out the system altogether. Guess the reason they don't do that as there's censorship issues, domains that are kosher but may perhaps embarrass the establishment of the day would suddenly start finding themselves on the list. This is the country that put Iceland on the Anti-Terror list over financial issues after all.

And to put final nail in my own argument I guess even if you put together a list of banned domains folks would just register the typo's so what's the point. Then you got the 'just cos it's banned over here', all domains arguably cater to an international audience potentially so as we were I suppose.

 

[WalkinDude]

I doubt you consider Nominet profit from "anything related to animal abuse", or murder or speeding, because they charge for such registrations, do you (or do you)?

It's possibly better that some domain name registrations are held by responsible registrants than by others that might be irresponsible.[/QUOTE]

+1 very sound reasoning. I read years ago of certain americans taking ownership of certain domains purely to keep them out of the 'wrong hands'. Is that something the domaineering community should do? who's want to volunteer to take over the reg tho???

Not me.

 

[jasman]

There is no good reason to be registering domains like this.

If such a domain is registered in the hope that it can be sold at profit, then consider the consequences. It is likely that the buyer intends to use it for a dubious website and wishes to get a ROI to justify his expense in buying it. Who would want to make a profit selling a domain when it is likely to be used for a purpose like this?

If such a domain is registered because you intend to put a legitimate site on it (discussing the subject in a similar vein to how an encyclopedia might discuss it), well what a strange choice to gravitate towards out of the millions of different areas of life to choose from. Surely a more positive, inspiring or popular subject would be a better choice on which to invest time developing a site?

If such a domain is registered to prove a point that it could be registered, then the only real outcome is that you're paying money in reg/renewal fees for a domain that will never be used yet you're putting yourself at risk of getting a reputation in the domain community as an oddball because most people wouldn't touch names like this with a barge pole and think it weird when someone does.

In my opinion registrations like this also bring the domainer community as a whole into ill repute as like cybersquatting they can be highlighted by the media wishing to vilify domainers or used as a premise for tighter regulation by corrupt politicians who wish to gain greater control over the Internet.

Best thing to do is cancel it and move onto something positive.

 

[Brassneck]

There is no good reason to be registering domains like this.

If such a domain is registered in the hope that it can be sold at profit, then consider the consequences. It is likely that the buyer intends to use it for a dubious website and wishes to get a ROI to justify his expense in buying it. Who would want to make a profit selling a domain when it is likely to be used for a purpose like this?

If such a domain is registered because you intend to put a legitimate site on it (discussing the subject in a similar vein to how an encyclopedia might discuss it), well what a strange choice to gravitate towards out of the millions of different areas of life to choose from. Surely a more positive, inspiring or popular subject would be a better choice on which to invest time developing a site?

If such a domain is registered to prove a point that it could be registered, then the only real outcome is that you're paying money in reg/renewal fees for a domain that will never be used yet you're putting yourself at risk of getting a reputation in the domain community as an oddball because most people wouldn't touch names like this with a barge pole and think it weird when someone does.

In my opinion registrations like this also bring the domainer community as a whole into ill repute as like cybersquatting they can be highlighted by the media wishing to vilify domainers or used as a premise for tighter regulation by corrupt politicians who wish to gain greater control over the Internet.

Best thing to do is cancel it and move onto something positive.

Excellent post.