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[Admin]

Half a billion people were already in poverty lol. I think we're all in the good game here, digital services will see a massive increase if anything with people turning to online shops to run their businesses.

You never read it properly, half a billion MORE.

 

[Murray]

I know it was discussed early on in the thread, but if you haven't yet start getting healthier

Eat better

Take some vitamins if you think you need them; especially vitamin D if you're in the UK which you will probably be low in since you can't get it from October-March, preferably 3000iu daily but 1000+ at least

Exercise even if its just a fast paced walk, get your lungs working, get your cardio vascular system more tuned so your bodies use of oxygen is more efficient

Do your body a favour

 

[BREWSTERS]

Half a billion people were already in poverty lol. I think we're all in the good game here, digital services will see a massive increase if anything with people turning to online shops to run their businesses.

Yeah, and that online shop will be called amazon.

If you're looking for businesses that will take off I'd say look for those offering home security systems...security fencing...that sort of thing.

 

[Adam H]

I've lost half of my business that I built over 15 years, gone in 15 days.

All from the same business or across different virticals ? scary figures regardless. Currently I've seen an up tick in some areas, some uncertainty in others but probably won't know the full conciquences until month 2 or 3 when the closed businesses will start to assess their budgets. Currently I've had 1 business panic and ask for a pause on a campaign for a few months, but to be honest that business its quite justifiable as its a beauty salon who obviously can't work or come in contact with people, Luckily it was a low value customer from a retainer perspective.

My wifes employer to date has refused to furlough her due to being off work to look after the out of school little one, they are revewing the situation this week but in my mind that bridge has burnt so im in the process of setting up a business for my wife to run ( one that ive been meaning to do for her for a few years ). I think many will be in similar situations and there will be a surge of new start ups and home workers as a result.

In a weird way, it may actually turn the tide and attitudes to many businesses working with people who have built a business from home offices and remotely. I've been fortunate over the last 14 years but there is still a stigma attached to businesses with no brick and mortar roots. I think that will change drastically now.

 

[Admin]

Yeah, and that online shop will be called amazon.

If you're looking for businesses that will take off I'd say look for those offering home security systems...security fencing...that sort of thing.

I was thinking sensor taps, sensor doors, sensor toilet flushes etc.

 

[diablo]

 

[LCHappy]

Plus our asserts are essentially outside the pound.

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Crazy things is that they lose health care when they lose their jobs. Double whammy. In the US, the lock down will undoubtedly cost more lives than the virus as people also die from other illnesses with no health cover.

 

[diablo]

Total Covid-19 deaths as of today across Scandinavia:

Sweden 793 people have died after testing positive (pop. 10.12m)

Norway 88 (pop. 5.4m)

Finland 42 (pop. 5.5m)

Denmark 237 (pop 5.6m)

https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/09f821667ce64bf7be6f9f87457ed9aa

https://www.fhi.no/en/id/infectious-diseases/coronavirus/daily-reports/daily-reports-COVID19/

https://thl.fi/fi/web/infektiotaudi...esta-covid-19/tilannekatsaus-koronaviruksesta

https://www.ssi.dk/aktuelt/sygdomsudbrud/coronavirus

 

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Hospitals in the US get $13k for every patient they classify as CV 19 - which rises to $39k if they put them on a ventilator.

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[diablo]

Hospitals in the US get $13k for every patient they classify as CV 19 - which rises to $39k if they put them on a ventilator. [/MEDIA]

Weirdly, was looking at figures for New York today on this very subject.

Prices vary by hospital, but what you say with regards prices roughly matches. There is a tariff of under 4 days of ventilator support and it's $33,000, but if four or more days of ventilator support it rises to $74,000. So better to keep them on for four days or more!

Boris Johnson is in St Thomas, one of the few hospitals in the UK to have an ECMO which not only does the job of your lungs, but your heart too.

In the States, Medicare pay hospitals $242,000 per patient for a go on an ECMO. There's around 300 of them across US hospitals. I believe there are six within the NHS.

 

[diablo]

Today's figures from the UK saw covid-19-related deaths rise by 881.

News programmes running with this headline figure without mentioning NHS England recorded 765 new deaths in hospital from coronavirus - 140 of them occurred yesterday, while 568 took place between 1 April and 7 April. So that 936 figure is grossly misleading as doesn't cover 24 hour period..

Few more stats for you all:

March 2017 deaths in the UK 48,662
March 2018 deaths in the UK 51,229
March 2019 deaths in the UK 43,946
March 2020 deaths in the UK 43,790

 

[Murray]

In the US they're banning reusable bags :s

I'm not sure if this is because they have people bag for them in shops or what

"Fearing the spread of the virus on reusable bags, lawmakers throughout the country have taken steps in recent weeks to usher plastic bags back into stores and ban reusable bags, at least temporarily."

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/money...oronavirus-reusable-bags-covid-19/2967950001/

 

[rob]

Today's figures from the UK saw covid-19-related deaths rise by 881.

News programmes running with this headline figure without mentioning NHS England recorded 765 new deaths in hospital from coronavirus - 140 of them occurred yesterday, while 568 took place between 1 April and 7 April. So that 936 figure is grossly misleading as doesn't cover 24 hour period..

Few more stats for you all:

March 2017 deaths in the UK 48,662
March 2018 deaths in the UK 51,229
March 2019 deaths in the UK 43,946
March 2020 deaths in the UK 43,790

Having had the misfortune to be aware of the new digital death registrations and lags, the 'normal' lag of several days is currently being exacerbated due to the new circumstances.

There is no cover up, it is a system adjusting so if and when huge numbers are processed it can cope.

Plus there is the human element to it, with work from home stuff on those who do the admin.

 

[diablo]

Having had the misfortune to be aware of the new digital death registrations and lags, the 'normal' lag of several days is currently being exacerbated due to the new circumstances.

There is no cover up, it is a system adjusting so if and when huge numbers are processed it can cope.

Plus there is the human element to it, with work from home stuff on those who do the admin.

Not suggesting there is a cover up, just typically poor reporting by the media.

The implication was 881 deaths had occurred in a 24 hour period which wasn't the case.

 

[rob]

Not suggesting there is a cover up, just typically poor reporting by the media.

The implication was 881 deaths had occurred in a 24 hour period which wasn't the case.

That is the issue when people are fixated with deaths and confirmed cases data, it just is not a day by day specific figure.

The confirmed cases figure is the most misleading due to the lack of testing. To fit some peoples logic in theory testing could be scrapped, no more positive tests, no more confirmed cases - boom pandemic over!

 

[LCHappy]

https://www.3dcrowd.uk helping to print kit for the CV outbreak. They have just been on BBC news. Using .uk instead of .co.uk, they registered both.

 

[diablo]

That is the issue when people are fixated with deaths and confirmed cases data, it just is not a day by day specific figure.

The confirmed cases figure is the most misleading due to the lack of testing. To fit some peoples logic in theory testing could be scrapped, no more positive tests, no more confirmed cases - boom pandemic over!

As with most data over time, trends are your friends.

BBC is running a story today saying New York has more cases than any country. Again, very poor reporting.

 

[diablo]

Total deaths as of today for Scandinavian countries (Sweden remains only one not in lockdown):

Sweden 870 people have died after testing positive (pop. 10.12m)

Norway 92 (pop. 5.4m)

Finland 48 (pop. 5.5m)

Denmark 247 (pop 5.6m)

https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/09f821667ce64bf7be6f9f87457ed9aa

https://www.fhi.no/en/id/infectious-diseases/coronavirus/daily-reports/daily-reports-COVID19/

https://thl.fi/fi/web/infektiotaudi...esta-covid-19/tilannekatsaus-koronaviruksesta

https://www.ssi.dk/aktuelt/sygdomsudbrud/coronavirus

 

[starbird]

The BBC reported 938 deaths today, saying it was record. It isn't, among that total are deaths from the 1st of April til the 8th and this is even mentioned on their site. Don't trust the BBC useless reporting at best.

Here is an update they had today
14:33
BREAKING Further 866 deaths announced in England
NHS England has announced 866 further deaths of people who had tested positive for Covid-19.

It brings the total number of confirmed deaths in hospitals in England to 8,114.

Of the new deaths announced today, 117 occurred on 9 April, 720 between 1 April and 8 April, and 29 in March.

720 between the 1st and 8th April

 

[diablo]

The BBC reported 938 deaths today, saying it was record. It isn't, among that total are deaths from the 1st of April til the 8th and this is even mentioned on their site. Don't trust the BBC useless reporting at best.

Here is an update they had today
14:33
BREAKING Further 866 deaths announced in England
NHS England has announced 866 further deaths of people who had tested positive for Covid-19.

It brings the total number of confirmed deaths in hospitals in England to 8,114.

Of the new deaths announced today, 117 occurred on 9 April, 720 between 1 April and 8 April, and 29 in March.

720 between the 1st and 8th April

The UK daily figures are now all over the place and are no longer of any value, particularly for use in comparisons.

Today's figure of 117 deaths in England in the last 24 hours should be a cause for celebration, but instead the BBC ignores the detail and runs with a "record" deaths headline.

The BBC is a shadow of its former self tbh.