cardiff.co.uk coventry.co.uk

[philiporchard]

Phil, how many unique visitors does Cardiff.co.uk get per month please ?

Thanks

only about 6k

 

[philiporchard]

Grandin...
Is Paul the one to speak to about domains? Cheers, Phil

What should you do...interesting

16k...buy and sell names...talk to Paul hes the quiet clever one

Lee

 

[LogicalDomains]

Hello Phil.

We've got leicester.com, wolverhampton.com, blackburn.com, stokeontrent.com and regionals like homecounties.com, lothian.com, ulster.com, westyorkshire.com, humberside.com etc for development... and as life's too short others for sale at www.towndomains.com

 

[philiporchard]

Hello Phil.

We've got leicester.com, wolverhampton.com, blackburn.com, stokeontrent.com and regionals like homecounties.com, lothian.com, ulster.com, westyorkshire.com, humberside.com etc for development... and as life's too short others for sale at www.towndomains.com

Great domains.
You are the kind of guys I'd be interested in developing with...
We've definately spoken before. Keep in touch, Phil

 

[mattonline]

I'm sure all of us are capable of developing domains, what do you need a developer, or to lease the domain...

 

[Pred]

Hello Phil.

We've got leicester.com, wolverhampton.com, blackburn.com, stokeontrent.com and regionals like homecounties.com, lothian.com, ulster.com, westyorkshire.com, humberside.com etc for development... and as life's too short others for sale at www.towndomains.com

holy smoke!

 

[grandin]

Liquidity

Too many hold onto names without any real game plan. If you buy today for £1 and sell tomorrow for £2 then your liquidity remains high....that is if you are good at trading and have established a reliable/quick paying outlet for your names.

To hold out for a high price is only a good option if you don't have a good ability to trade.

Developing must provide revenue that exceeds that of profit from trading, this is highly unlikely for most

Paul is a good trader (gerenerally) but I must say he has got a bit stuck of late and his liquidity is now poor, thus you would overtake him with your 16k very quickly.... make 16k to 32k to 64k to 128k whilst Paul sits on his £10k portfolio that he believes is worth £100k but cannot liquidate at 100k

Do I know...I am a mortgage broker by trade and are totally liquid!

Lee

 

[philiporchard]

Developer & Designer

I'm sure all of us are capable of developing domains, what do you need a developer, or to lease the domain...

I want a very good developer and designer...
Anyone know of any outstanding?
Really like the work of sequence.co.uk , snubcommunications.co.uk, and design style of markboulton.co.uk

 

[Creature]

developer designer

Re developer or designer: I think you can try asking at

www.webhostingtalk.com
or
www.scriptlance.com

Also check www.Hotscripts.com for a ready made site and save yourself a load of time and money!

 

[retired_member12]

^ My McAfee SiteAdvisor warns that downloads from Hotscripts.com are reported to have had Adware/Spyware issues with them.

You have been warned!

 

[philiporchard]

Too many hold onto names without any real game plan. If you buy today for £1 and sell tomorrow for £2 then your liquidity remains high....that is if you are good at trading and have established a reliable/quick paying outlet for your names.

To hold out for a high price is only a good option if you don't have a good ability to trade.

Developing must provide revenue that exceeds that of profit from trading, this is highly unlikely for most

Paul is a good trader (gerenerally) but I must say he has got a bit stuck of late and his liquidity is now poor, thus you would overtake him with your 16k very quickly.... make 16k to 32k to 64k to 128k whilst Paul sits on his £10k portfolio that he believes is worth £100k but cannot liquidate at 100k

Do I know...I am a mortgage broker by trade and are totally liquid!

Lee

Don't really want to get into the name trading game - I only like buying them! Although saying that, I did sell bamboo-flooring.com recently for $5000, but it was top in Google.com for 'bamboo flooring'.

I have some domains now that are worth developing, so that is my next step.

 

[grandin]

bamboo

Are you looking to develop to sell or develop to derive an income.....key difference

Lee

 

[philiporchard]

Are you looking to develop to sell or develop to derive an income.....key difference

Lee

Hi Lee, Looking to develop to derive an income.
Really looking for good developers/designers at the moment.
Have spoken to Craig Grannell and Nathan from Ninefour.
Also Sequence in Cardiff have developed some outstanding sites.
Hoping with domains like Coventry.co.uk and Cardiff.co.uk, they could be developed to generate a good income. Have 16k for development to kick start the project... Any thoughts?

 

[GEaston]

Cardiff and others

Hi Philip,

Very interesting reading this thread, and like everyone else here I like your names. You need a superb webdesigner, but really good ones are not cheap. No matter how good a webdesigner you find in my experience they'll know nothing or next to nothing about Search Engine Optimisation (SEO).

I picked up some 400 or so great names about 6 years ago via snapnames and had to develop a number of them. 120 of the 400 are poker or poker related which after "sex" and "Search engine optimisation" is probably the 3rd toughest term on earth. My main site, and an example of great webdesign/SEO is www.texashold-empoker.com which ranks No1 on Yahoo.com for "texas holdem poker" and No3 for the larger term "texas holdem" out of about 20 million competing sites and has held this position since 7th Sept 2005 with a flawed domain name. I made a number of mistakes with this site in it's creation that are such that it'll not rank well in Google without losing the Yahoo positions and my view on that is if it ain't broke don't fix it.

In terms of Google I set up http://caribbeanpoker.net in around a day and despite being a micro site it ranks No2 on Google.com today for "caribbean poker" taking that slot in less than a month from setup. That's one above Wikipedia on the .com index. By the way for all you people in the uk trying to look this up you'll only be able to do so via the google toolbar options tab because you are all defaulting to google.co.uk no matter how hard you try to view .com (an unrelated SEO discussion). I think I'm No5 on the uk listing but I have penalties for hosting out of USA.

I have a few sites that sit at No1 in Google, Yahoo and MSN at the same time which tell you they are not particularly competative terms - www.cellularpoker.com for "cellular poker" for instance which shows up top 10 for mobilephone poker.

I would not go to the trouble again of trying to hit the top of a competative listing without the keywords in the domain - because it's hard work. If you have the primary domain and good SEO then you'll take your search term in a week, maybe less. Without the domain, figure on 18 months effort first. The time consuming thing for cardiff is that it'll have to be a huge site - well worth the effort once done however.

All that to say I now run a Virtual Real Estate Company that owns and develops prime internet properties like your Cardiff domain. I think you should either:

1) Partner with someone who has a track record at both Webdesign and SEO
2) Keep your 16k - get the webdesigner to pay for design as part of the deal.
3) Once developed with proven traffic lease the space to local businesses (something I do on a daily basis)

Finally, I (like many others here) would be interested in developing your property.

Good luck whatever you do.

Graham Easton
[email protected]

 

[mattonline]

GEaston: - Nice post, was interesting.

Like he said i would be interested in developing one of the sites, Cardiff.co.uk
and i have experience in design and SEO

 

[i4v.net]

interesting

16k should do good job on the whole lot.

fundamentally if its a decent generic site for Cardiff you should just be able to rebrand it for each place reusing code, cutting costs.

Its nice that your developing them, i hate nothing more than seeing good domains rotting on some back end parking page, with the owner hoping to get a mega offer in 20 years time when we're all dead.

good luck!

 

[philiporchard]

Interesting...

Thanks for the posts guys...
I designed for 9 years (quark Xpress + photoshop etc)

Have also done a little web design...
www.chislehurst.co.uk - probably reflects a style I like.

Like these guys work a lot...
http://www.markboulton.co.uk
http://www.sequence.co.uk
http://www.snubcommunications.com

 

[diablo]

As far as SEO is concerned, I think we all know there is only one real player in town - Google. But for geo-specific names like Cardiff.co.uk SEO isn't the only game in town. Far from it.

It's actually very easy to get to google.com from the UK.

Go to www.google.co.uk

Just below the search box, on the right, is a link that says "go to Google.com".

 

[ScottJ]

As far as SEO is concerned, I think we all know there is only one real player in town - Google.

Absolutely! If there is one subject I have studied, experimented and enjoyed working on its SEO and Google, No.1's in Yahoo drive almost pitiful traffic compared to Google and Google is such a hard engine to take on no matter what people say, especially recently.

SEO is more SEM nowadays and viral marketing, its less SEO and more marketing strategy, get Dugg or Stumbled and linked to in a viral way through creative marketing, all the worlds very slowly are merging together as everyone catches on.

 

[retired_member27]

It's actually very easy to get to google.com from the UK.

Go to www.google.co.uk

Just below the search box, on the right, is a link that says "go to Google.com".

I'm guessing he already knows that, what he means is that if he uses google.com the search results would be different to users in the UK than to users in the US.