A few end user sales:

[Murray]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fox_and_the_Grapes
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Ultra simplistic point of view

Some people's worlds aren't just black and white but shades of grey inbetween.

 

[domainseller200]

I have to be honest I am truly shocked at Murray's comments in here.

It reminds me of a one man protest for Peta with the protester wearing leather shoes...

No I tell you what it is

I also find a difference between being approached and approaching someone.

It's much more like me saying "I don't like oranges" then everyone saying "ooo this guy hates all fruit!" no, I don't hate all fruit.. I just don't like oranges.

Ok so a bit like saying a Peta supporter thinks there is a difference/more acceptable for a person to walk into a shop to buy leather shoes instead of someone approaching someone to buy leather shoes?

Honestly I am very surprised at your views and approach in this thread,

Federer openly posted the email he sends to prospective buyers, it isn't misleading in any shape or form, and he also isn't responsible if someone decides to buy a name and doesn't use it.

Don't be bitter, be better.

 

[Murray]

Honestly I am very surprised at your views and approach in this thread,.

I'm surprised you don't understand the point I'm trying to make; that or you're just very bad at analogies lol

Don't be bitter, be better

You and Rob have both hinted this is coming from a place of jealousy

Do you honestly think I look at £100 sales and go "wowww why can't I do that" and then it turns to "grrrr I'm angry"

I suppose you don't know anything about me so I shouldn't be insulted, but it's still kind of insulting

 

[martin-s]

Let's all get along - this was quite a constructive thread I thought

I'll leave Homer to correct you on jealousy though

 

[Murray]

I'll leave Homer to correct you on jealousy though

Learn something new everyday thanks

 

[domainseller200]

I'm surprised you don't understand the point I'm trying to make; that or you're just very bad at analogies lol



You and Rob have both hinted this is coming from a place of jealousy

Do you honestly think I look at £100 sales and go "wowww why can't I do that" and then it turns to "grrrr I'm angry"

I suppose you don't know anything about me so I shouldn't be insulted, but it's still kind of insulting

I fully expected everyone else to clearly see the analogies except for you, as after all, you are the one not seeing what you are saying or how you are coming across.

As you said, I don't know anything about you so how could I honestly know if you are angry or not

But what I do know is, that what you are saying to Federer IS insulting and totally goes against yourself being a seller of keyword domains (yeah, yeah, there are keyword domains and there are key word domains)

Who are we to judge why people buy them?

 

[Murray]

I fully expected everyone else to clearly see the analogies except for you

These were your analogies

It reminds me of a one man protest for Peta with the protester wearing leather shoes...

Ok so a bit like saying a Peta supporter thinks there is a difference/more acceptable for a person to walk into a shop to buy leather shoes instead of someone approaching someone to buy leather shoes?

I'm not against selling keyword domains

I'm not against contacting end users

It's this mixture: rubbish keyword domain + contacting end users

So how do these analogies fit?

But what I do know is, that what you are saying to Federer IS insulting

Who started this thread?

Was the thread started to have a discussion?

Who are we to judge why people buy them?

You aren't interested as to why people buy domains? surprising.

 

[domainseller200]

These were your analogies





I'm not against selling keyword domains

I'm not against contacting end users

It's this mixture: rubbish keyword domain + contacting end users

So how do these analogies fit?



Who started this thread?

Was the thread started to have a discussion?



You aren't interested as to why people buy domains? surprising.

Have a nice day Murray

 

[spiderspider]

Some people's worlds aren't just black and white but shades of grey inbetween.

The lucky buggers

Great sales there Fed. Keep up the good work )

In any industry, there will be those who just sell the premium product, those in the middle, and those at the bottom. No one forces anyone to buy anything, and selling at the bottom end of the market is often harder than selling at the top.

Well done for showing the EMDs still have a place in the world

 

[Murray]

Have a nice day Murray

I knew you were wrong, you've just realised you're wrong, at least we're on the same page now.

 

[diablo]

It's this mixture: rubbish keyword domain + contacting end users

Value is entirely subjective. 100% subjective. What is rubbish to you, won't be to someone else.

If buyers were being forced to buy domain names I would see your point, but they are not. They choose whether to respond to emails selling domain names. And if a deal is done, it means the buyer sees value where you presumably would not.

 

[Admin]

LMAO domainseller.

Yes, different strokes for different folks. Price and quality variation, supply and demand, it's all what makes a market.

Murray has an opinion on the OP's strategy which seemingly everyone else disagrees with, fine, we've done it to death now . Move on, peace and love, we are all beautiful in some way

 

[martin-s]

Whether the domains sold are any good or not is the buyer's problem - I don't really have a problem with that. Fed's are a mixed bag, but then we've all been there...

It's how poor domains get sold via outreach I was interested in discussing. Where there's a strategy to suggest that a simple 301 might bring SEO benefits (when it won't), I think that's a disingenuous approach.

My reading of Murray's comments was that he was trying to say something similar. Murray?

 

[ian]

It's how poor domains get sold via outreach I was interested in discussing. Where there's a strategy to suggest that a simple 301 might bring SEO benefits (when it won't), I think that's a disingenuous approach.

My reading of Murray's comments was that he was trying to say something similar. Murray?

My interpretation of what Murray said also; I think this has been blown out of proportion and remember guys, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

 

[Murray]

Value is entirely subjective. 100% subjective. What is rubbish to you, won't be to someone else.

I'm not sure so much it is subjective in this case

They're horrible names for branding on the whole, I think that's fair to say?

They wont really help with rankings

So what are they good for? what value do they have.. to me the only value they have is from peoples misconceptions

A question that comes to my mind also is if these are good domains being bought by web savvy people who are going to make great use of them, why is no one bothering to register the .uk's

It's how poor domains get sold via outreach I was interested in discussing. Where there's a strategy to suggest that a simple 301 might bring SEO benefits (when it won't), I think that's a disingenuous approach.

My reading of Murray's comments was that he was trying to say something similar. Murray?

From re-reading through just Murray's contributed posts, for a moment, it seems to me that he dislikes most of the domain names being marketed by Federer because he doesn't consider them to meet a quality he himself aspires to market. He's already listed reasons why he believes these domain names have little to no value when used. It may be that he considers the outbound approach to be that of a doorstep salesman selling something to people he may believe have little understanding of what they're purchasing and so may purchase simply "to be on the safe side" by not wanting to turn down an opportunity to acquire a domain name that initially appears slightly more attractive than the other unattractive domain(s) he may consider they may already own.

These are both fair representations of my feelings, thanks, nice that some people can understand the point I'm trying to make.

 

[martin-s]

why is no one bothering to register the .uk's

Because .uk's are worthless junk?

 

[diablo]

I'm not sure so much it is subjective in this case

They're horrible names for branding on the whole, I think that's fair to say?

They wont really help with rankings

So what are they good for? what value do they have.. to me the only value they have is from peoples misconceptions

A question that comes to my mind also is if these are good domains being bought by web savvy people who are going to make great use of them, why is no one bothering to register the .uk's

These are both fair representations of my feelings, thanks, nice that some people can understand the point I'm trying to make.

Value is always subjective.

All of the above represents your valuation and your valuation alone. Others may agree with that valuation, but the only value anything has is what you, me and anyone else puts on it at a particular moment in time.

 

[Tricky1]

They wont really help with rankings

Murrey, domains arn't always about Google listings, your forgetting they can be promoted offline as well.

When you only have a second to catch a potential clients eye, which one works best ..? tree cutting or daves affordable tree care, or is it dave safford able tree care

 

[ian]

Can't speak for Murray of course, but I don't see the above example as his point (seo versus offline marketing, very different of course). In that instance, the selling point is that you are selling them an easy to remember domain that says what you do - very easy for a consumer to remember, especially on a moving vehicle, all good selling points. Much different from if you promote the domain as being able to improve your positioning in Google due to the keywords used etc. However, with the interest in EMD's by a certain member here, maybe a return to that method is upon us, I don't know that side of the market well enough to comment.

 

[Edwin]

Murrey, domains arn't always about Google listings, your forgetting they can be promoted offline as well.

When you only have a second to catch a potential clients eye, which one works best ..? tree cutting or daves affordable tree care, or is it dave safford able tree care

A great example. Here's a non-exhaustive list of places a URL shows up, most of which are not immediately related to the site itself.
http://www.webmastering.co.uk/seo/url-ubiquity-your-domain-name-should-be-everywhere/