9/11 Charlie Sheen / your views

[aZooZa]

Blimey CM, 500mph = 220m/s. A 757-200 in only 48m long, so a cctv at 25fps would only catch 5 frames for the whole length of the plane to pass by. With the best will in the world, the plane would only be a blur anyway!

What were the CCTV capture settings? Do you actually know?

 

[GreyWing]

What were the CCTV capture settings? Do you actually know?

Looked like the standard 2fps to me, it's a industry standard rate on cctv, like a default setting. Or at least it was before hard drives took over from tape.

 

[cm1975]

YouTube - F-4 Crash Test

What do expect it to do bounce off?

Very interesting video! I think when you see the images of the Pentagon, you don't expect it to behave like a concrete block, especially when you see so many undamaged windows next to the area of impact.

All I'm saying is that I can understand why people have their suspicions about certain aspects of September 11th.

To say that the whole thing was planned, is quite unbelievable, but the idea of things being buried in all the chaos is certainly a little bit interesting!

 

[retired_member26]

My own conclusion is that the 9/11 attack DID have something to do with the US government, and was planned as a reason / justification to go to war with Iraq over the oil etc etc.

Taliban and the root of Obama were supported both financially and in terms of arsenal after the Soviet invasion to Afganistan. The US were calling those low-life people as "guerilla" in those years.

The US will make an alliance even with terrorists if it sees benefits to them. The problem is they have no vision for long term in planning. Believe me I tell you this as a US university graduate.

TurNIC

 

[aZooZa]

Believe me I tell you this as a US university graduate.

TurNIC

It must be true then with those credentials.

 

[SF]

LOL azzooza

 

[techtimmy]

Cmon guys, The Pentagon is made out of the same materials as they space ships they salvaged from Area 51. Of course there's no damage!

 

[doodlebug]

All i know is this :

1/ Tower 7 which also collapsed is the only steel structure building in USA history to collapse because of heat ?
2/ Inside tower 7 was stacks of paper work relating to evidence proving Citi financial committed multi million pounds of fraud ?
3/ The F1 fighters whatever there called, there's usully 6 along the east coast at any given time, there was only 2 on 11th September ?
4/ The ex head of the FBI who openly voiced concerns over the years was made cheif security of the south tower just 2 weeks before the attacks, conveniently ?
5/ The then mayor of New York who wasn't to popular with the government at the time was also in one of the towers at that time ?
6/ The people who were immediatley named as the terrosist on board the planes all materalised alive weeks later ?
7/ The US goverment as a programme called Global Hawk which gives them the capability to fly jets unmanned ?
8/ The guy who owned the towers was paid millions for a 99 year lease just before the attacks and then claimed a massive insurance payout ?

Just a few things i found once when researching.

As for July 7th, not sure but what i find funny is regarding Jean Charles De Menzies, the officers chasing him said they need to stop him before he boarded the train, De Menzies ran down a very busy escalator and so did the officers even though the steps next to the escaltors were completely empty so why din't the officers use the steps and easily get to the bottom of the escalator before he did ?

This could be genuine but the guy who helped contain the Glasgow airport terrorist soon died of an usual illness ?

In my eyes the UK and US government are the large criminal organisations, some countries have the balls to stand up against ther own government, we are all sheep who do what we are told, ignorance is bliss

 

[retired_member32]

i am not a number,i am a sheep baaa!!!

 

[boxerdog]

we are all numbers, on sheep :wink:

 

[retired_member6]

Swordfish - watch the film

There's a phrase, can't recall exactly, "huge events (or was it wars) don't happen on their own, they happen due to one or many government plans"

It takes 300 people around the world to control 6 billion people, even with ten behind, each having had an opinion on how to proceed, that's 3000 controlling 6 billion people. We're no different to worker ants.

Get on with your life, worrying what those 300 people get up to has very little to do with any of us, the one in charge of the British wasn't even elected and where's the riots on the streets to get him out? No one cares. We're on this planet for 70 odd years, those 300 people are a long line of power merchants who've been manipulating the human race for centuries. Is it any wonder why you think one president or prime minister is no different to another... instinct. Can't beat it sometimes.

Interesting though that Americans are rising up and they've all got guns, little do they know, they haven't all got endless supplies of bullets like the government, there's one thing having an armed nation, it's another the public thinking they can fight a war without bullets. Although I suppose there's a lot of cutlery out there to be melted down.

*I suppose there's the other line of thinking, can't have a conspiracy without force feeding the public with another conspiracy theory. They'd have been better off invading south america, more oil down there.

 

[jasman]

Incidentally did you know the security company who looked after the WTC at the time of the attacks was owned by Marvin Bush, George Bush's brother?

Anyone being open-minded about these things should watch Zeitgeist - the 2nd part of the film (there are 3 parts) is about the 911 attacks. Zeitgeist is one of the most watched Internet circulated films of all time.

Watch online
Zeitgeist, The Movie - Remastered / Final Edition

Download
Zeitgeist - The Movie

 

[retired_member26]

It must be true then with those credentials.

Yes, if you compare your ordinary polytechnic college of UK (I assume this) with UC Berkeley! in terms of engineering.

Did I say you you are an arse before. If not I am telling now!

 

[aZooZa]

Yes, if you compare your ordinary polytechnic college of UK (I assume this) with UC Berkeley! in terms of engineering.

Did I say you you are an arse before. If not I am telling now!

So you didn't major in English then?

 

[retired_member32]

we are all numbers, on sheep :wink:

didn't you know !! it's obvious so you don't hump the same sheep twice

 

[domainseller200]

Yes, if you compare your ordinary polytechnic college of UK (I assume this) with UC Berkeley! in terms of engineering.

Did I say you you are an arse before. If not I am telling now!

What has UK/US college education got to do with this scenario ? they do not teach the mechanics of the governments in either.

Please can you also explain the link between your 2 posts where in the first you said long term planning, and in the second you said engineering ?

 

[boxerdog]

didn't you know !! it's obvious so you don't hump the same sheep twice

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[tifosi]

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There's a bit of 'topic drift' here!!

S

 

[boxerdog]

sorry about that, i will leave it now :???:

 

[synapsis]

personally, i've watched my share of the 911 conspiracy videos and can't say they are all right or all wrong. i think there's people who obviously know whats true and whats not, but i'm sure for the most of us we're just grasping at straws. and with that said, here's what i think

first, i think that the US allowed the attack. the reason why i say this is i can't believe that the supposed #1 nation in the world with the most weapons and bajillions of dollars worth of spy equipment didn't see that coming. i'm sorry, they have satellites that can count how many eye lashes you have.

second, after the attack on 911 they went into iraq. they had already proposed going into iraq years before even the kuwait war started, but that didn't happen then, they just got closer to iraq. this reason just executed the proposal.

third, the two towers were already bombed the same day 2-3 years before hand. i'm sorry, there are people with IQ's that exceed einstein working within the government who analyze this kind of material, the last thing they'd do is overlook this date.

and before i bore you any longer, there's tonnes of videos that say that both the buildings had been wired to bring them down easier. i have no idea if thats true, and even if it is, it doesn't matter - they allowed the attack in the first place to happen, and if it did not bring the buildings down, they still would have went into iraq.

and thats what i think