What's your IQ?

[aZooZa]

I didn't realise it meant so much to you

P.

It doesn't really. You are simple food. You are also not Mensa material - I can tell from your signature. How did you concoct that? Regardless, I sense you're an inadequate and jealous person though... When you're ready to stop messing around and actually call me a liar, let me know.

 

[disruptive]

There's nothing like how to measure intelligence to stir up debate

I see IQ, and yes I do have an high IQ, as raw processing power. The ability to compute quite quickly can be crucial, the ability to fill in the blanks. The tests that measure for IQ concentrate on these raw skills. Here's the rub though, they do not measure creativity, persistence, social, motivation and a whole host of other facets that make a successful individual. These days I find that being creative and having the ability to execute the job more important and thats what I try to improve...the softer skills that I believe will be ever more important as the world evolves.

With any testing one has to look at what it explicitly tests...and what it does not. Is the IQ a real measure of intelligence? Its is by no means a predictor of success. Nor is it a pre-requisite.

My view is that Man is measured by results and these are ultimately what matters. I.e. how one can make a contribution! Often an IQ is irrelevant or not that strongly correlated with even academic success. [I am looking for a study that I read on IQ and recent Nobel winners and cannot find citation :-(]

There are many times I have given a job to an apparently less IQ enabled candidate due to their ability to be a creative thinker and their enthusiasm and tenacity which tends to win out. How many great thinkers do we consign to the dustbin because they do not fit these "typical" view of intelligence?

I would go so far, knowing some of the people from my personal sphere who are MENSA members though not ALL, many use it as a badge of honor, a way of feeling superior or smug about themselves. We all have anecdotal evidence either way....

I have nothing against IQ testing, if people want to do it, but I would also like to see other forms of testing, such as creativity and personality take more centre stage.

 

[aZooZa]

I think a high IQ gives you an ability to 'understand' what you take in, you are able to order it, differentiate parts, and see the whole of it, which inturn allows you to do permitations on the data to come up with something else.

Like for example the nom info on the system to write your own catching script, we can all read the data, but most of us are unable to put it all together to see it as a whole item. Now you can break it down bit by bit and build it anyway but if you had the mental capacity and learned to program with that enhanced capacity then you could very possibly build it many times 'cleaner' than someone else.

Whether cleaner is better is another matter, my programming logic tells me a compiled language would be many times faster than an interpreted language. Experience from someone else has learned this is not the case at all, so inteligence wouldnt really make you better without knowledge and experience in the field. I think this is where many inteligent people fail, they believe that their high iq is a replacement for everything.

Some of the richest people I know are also the dumbest, I know a guy who drives a quadraporte and he can't even write his own name, yet he has an 8 figure bank balance. I know a guy who owned a chain of night clubs, had a good idea that was fully developped, he was smart enough to do it, but ultimately was just too stupid to listen to the experts because he thought he knew better coz he was so smart, he is now in millions of debt, from winning awards for innovation to ruins in 8 yrs.
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Having the enhanced brain power doesnt mean anything if thats all you have

You're quite right. Having a high IQ isn't something particularly special. All it means is that you have a *capacity* for knowledge. Obtaining it is another thing.

Look at that kipper smoker. He's as daft as a brush and likes to let you know it.

 

[aZooZa]

I see IQ, and yes I do have an high IQ, as raw processing power. The ability to compute quite quickly can be crucial, the ability to fill in the blanks. The tests that measure for IQ concentrate on these raw skills. Here's the rub though, they do not measure creativity, persistence, social, motivation and a whole host of other facets that make a successful individual. These days I find that being creative and having the ability to execute the job more important and thats what I try to improve...the softer skills that I believe will be ever more important as the world evolves.

With any testing one has to look at what it explicitly tests...and what it does not. Is the IQ a real measure of intelligence? Its is by no means a predictor of success. Nor is it a pre-requisite.

My view is that Man is measured by results and these are ultimately what matters. I.e. how one can make a contribution! Often an IQ is irrelevant or not that strongly correlated with even academic success. [I am looking for a study that I read on IQ and recent Nobel winners and cannot find citation :-(]

There are many times I have given a job to an apparently less IQ enabled candidate due to their ability to be a creative thinker and their enthusiasm and tenacity which tends to win out. How many great thinkers do we consign to the dustbin because they do not fit these "typical" view of intelligence?

I would go so far, knowing some of the people from my personal sphere who are MENSA members though not ALL, many use it as a badge of honor, a way of feeling superior or smug about themselves. We all have anecdotal evidence either way....

I have nothing against IQ testing, if people want to do it, but I would also like to see other forms of testing, such as creativity and personality take more centre stage.

I agree with much of what you say. However, as per my previous post which crossed with yours, intelligence is the ability to absorb, store and correlate knowledge. It's not the knowledge itself -- you have to go out and get that like anyone else.

 

[philipp]

It doesn't really. You are simple food. You are also not Mensa material - I can tell from your signature. How did you concoct that? Regardless, I sense you're an inadequate and jealous person though... When you're ready to stop messing around and actually call me a liar, let me know.

Thanks for the psychoanalysis grandad, I'll bear it in mind

P.

 

[aZooZa]

Thanks for the psychoanalysis grandad, I'll bear it in mind

P.

You're welcome!

 

[disruptive]

I agree with much of what you say. However, as per my previous post which crossed with yours, intelligence is the ability to absorb, store and correlate knowledge. It's not the knowledge itself -- you have to go out and get that like anyone else.

We have to watch what we mean by knowledge, because IQ does not correlate to the ability absorb all forms of knowledge. Memory, musical ability, contextual meaning, verbal and vocal recall all come into play in the absorption of knowledge...and may NOT be related to what is measured in raw IQ.

 

[aZooZa]

We have to watch what we mean by knowledge, because IQ does not correlate to the ability absorb all forms of knowledge. Memory, musical ability, contextual meaning, verbal and vocal recall all come into play in the absorption of knowledge...and may NOT be related to what is measured in raw IQ.

Put in simpler terms, the basis of 'knowledge' as I mean it, is whatever rubs off on you in terms of whatever life presents to you. That may be the ability to store pi to 2,000 decimal points in your brain, or to know by your street smarts that a person is about to mug you. Nothing academic about intelligence.

 

[Pred]

okay, i've restocked popcorn

just to clarify, 'IQ' is your 'Intelligence Quotient'

oh, and while this thread's so hot, 'IntelligenceQuotient.co.uk' is for sale

as is I-Q.org.uk

iq.co.uk & iq.org.uk cannot be regged as you know

 

[aZooZa]

just to clarify, 'IQ' is your 'Intelligence Quotient'

Cheers Pred - was racking my brains on that one

 

[disruptive]

Put in simpler terms, the basis of 'knowledge' as I mean it, is whatever rubs off on you in terms of whatever life presents to you. That may be the ability to store pi to 2,000 decimal points in your brain, or to know by your street smarts that a person is about to mug you. Nothing academic about intelligence.

We are considering the original post and the meaning of validated IQ testing. And there may be NOT correlation with your ability to absorb knowledge and your IQ rawscore, because an IQ tests a very narrow range of abilities.

It does not test memory recall which is required for learning. It tests raw processing power! Hence my original point...so the assumption that it can be an indicator GENERALLY of an ability to absorb knowledge is flawed.

 

[pugyrob]

Ultimately IQ tests should be about pure intelligence however research has proved that the more tests you do the better you will most likely fare and thus someone can improve their performance in these tests by altering their way of thinking and becoming used to the type of questions asked. They are also very variable in terms of difficulty, some would make me a genius, some would make me a dunce (im with dunce on this one).

However, i have known a few people with ridiculously high IQ's, my old maths teacher had a top 10 UK IQ and he was purely mad and unstable. I think in terms of a precursor for success its a poor one and should be looked at as a bit of fun on the most part.

Nowadays i assume there are many more ways to measure someones "intelligence" such as a plethora of emotional IQ tests and others that give a more rounded picture of a persons brainpower.

For the record, the last one i did on the Anne Robinson test on ITV i scored 90, my fiancee scored 125 and she can just about boil a kettle joke but i hope shes not reading this ).

 

[Skinner]

I disagree about your ability to absorb information, I think you maybe using absorb interchanably with 'store', because you can absorb the information and work with it in your mind and give an answer doesnt mean you can store that data for a later time and/or use it in future situations.

I believe a high IQ as put ealier is having a capacity to process the data you have to hand, nothing to do with memory, storing, creative or anything else. Its just the ability to handle the info you have in a more efficient way. Like the bath and water questions I posted, its about tracking ever changing variables and crunching the numbers, you either can or can't.

 

[aZooZa]

We are considering the original post and the meaning of validated IQ testing. And there may be NOT correlation with your ability to absorb knowledge and your IQ rawscore, because an IQ tests a very narrow range of abilities.

It does not test memory recall which is required for learning. It tests raw processing power! Hence my original point...so the assumption that it can be an indicator GENERALLY of an ability to absorb knowledge is flawed.

Hmm. Well I'm going to declare myself well and truly OUT of this debate as opinions are like the proverbial. This is one of the most contended issues of all time and threads like this never end.

 

[retired_member34]

My friend and I both sat the supervised test in the late 80s whilst waiting for our A Level results. I had the higher score, but we both were eligible to join. He read Medicine at Cambridge, I read Maths. He worked hard, passed, and is now a highly paid aneathetist. I drank too much wine, failed and was sent down, and now play with the internet.

 

[mat]

If I sell £9000 worth of domain, invest half of it in watches, a quarter of it on rent, drop £1000 worth of domains, sell 3 more for £50 each, how many Romanian GFs does that leave me with?

 

[julian]

god I hate being thick as pig shit - its so frustrating when all you want is a good handreg..

 

[Pred]

What's Your IQ ?

Good brainfood for domainers

and all this from this lol

now, why is it they can't sort out the Israeli / Palestinian problem, when we all get on so well over 'trivial' matters

btw, they are IQ Test questions in the test. Mensa sample questions. Not, 'what year was Britney born?' type questions.

so, if you're wondering what range you're in and want to know for free and have a spare 15 mins to half hour. you can let us all know

 

[Skinner]

I was at Cheerleaders and Obsessions and Deansgate locks area on sat night, and amazing the sheer volume of rather hot eastern euro girls, no romanian but lots polish and czech, if them are anything to go by Rob, I estimate you have enough for 2 posh w*nks and no eastern euro girls

 

[retired_member4]

Didn't want to read all this thread because it became tedious after page 2.

Does that mean I don't have the attention span to join Mensa?

To quote Marx " I wouldn't want to be a member of any club that would accept me as a member"

That was Groucho, not Carl