.UK Consultation meeting

[Stephen]

change registrant owner

Ability to change registrant owner.

That would be at no cost, if the new registrar agreement went through.

As a buyer and seller of UK domains I have for some time requested Nominet to consider removing the charge of £12 which is equivalent to 4 years registration.

Also I believe that will open up more movement of domains to end users, improve renewal rates and bring it in line with .com .net etc.

It is a pity that the removal of the £12 transfer charge is only being contemplated because it suits the large registrars.

 

[anthony]

...As a buyer and seller of UK domains I have for some time requested Nominet to consider removing the charge of £12 which is equivalent to 4 years registration.

A convenient and lucrative legacy from the paper days, scandalous that it has been allowed to continue.

There is nothing that makes me cringe more that flogging a domain name for low £xx, knowing that the poor buyer MUST hand over a further £12 to Nominet for doing virtually nothing. It's all fully automated FFS! If it's the contractual element they are looking to safeguard, then charge £1.

 

[foz]

That would be at no cost, if the new registrar agreement went through.

As a buyer and seller of UK domains I have for some time requested Nominet to consider removing the charge of £12 which is equivalent to 4 years registration.

Also I believe that will open up more movement of domains to end users, improve renewal rates and bring it in line with .com .net etc.

It is a pity that the removal of the £12 transfer charge is only being contemplated because it suits the large registrars.

No guarantee that Registrars will not charge .e.g. pay for another years renewal to transfer in (and change the owner).

When your selling domains for three to five figures+ a paltry £10 (which I always pay) doesn't worry me in the slightest. I actually like it as Nominet oversees the process. Do you think employees of Registrars will get itchy fingers caught in the honey pot (stealing domains)?

 

[websaway]

Thanks for contacting them and posting.

15th is mid not early, so I think they will do at least an interim announcement about .uk today before going off to Brazil, based on past actions of wanting to appear to keep promises and engage with everybody.

Nothing today.

 

[spiderspider]

Shame we can't run a sweepstake. Would be a good way to make a little for charity or whatever.

I'd put my money on Friday 20th December.

 

[TinkyWinky]

Nothing today.

It's utter contempt for the bulk (i.e. the rank and file - not the big boys) of the membership...

Said it before and say it again - all of the current Board needs to go and a completely new board and constitution (read voting powers) be installed.

But what's the likelihood of that - unless they have done something illegal.

TW

 

[Stephen]

silence says a lot

Nothing today.

I was wrong again.

The Nominet delay in my opinion is running down the clock for any opposition to the Nominet plan to make an impact and show all who is boss.

“Nothing strengthens authority so much as silence.”

― Leonardo da Vinci

The attitude of Nominet on this matter only serves to increase the resolve of those that believe Nominet don't have public purpose at their centre and to make changes at Nominet happen.

 

[Nigel]

Agree with you there Tinky. Utter contempt for the existing registrants. I think the delay shows they're desperate to push ahead with the shorter extension but they're faced with complex difficulties which could produce a mass of legal claims and refund claims.

a) remember that they've promoted .co.uk domains as a solid investment over the years to businesses and to the domaining community. They've even attended domaining conferences around the world promoting .co.uk domains

b) they introduced multi year registrations just before these consultations started. People who have been tempted to buy 10 year registrations may want their money back if an alternative, shorter (and in their mind better) domain is now introduced.

c) the short domain auction that raised £3m for nominet is an almighty problem because the most valuable .co.uk domains were auctioned last making them the newest registrant.

There are so many law firms looking for any excuse to bring actions i.e. missold - ppi, card protection, isas, pensions. Why not missold domains? How would nominet deal with a flood of claims if they now relegate .co.uk domains to the second division? Small claims are not expensive or hard for a claimant to initiate but particularly difficult and expensive for large organisations to handle on a mass scale. So, in my opinion, nominet are like a rabbit staring in the headlights and don't know what to do.

 

[websaway]

Agree with you there Tinky. Utter contempt for the existing registrants. I think the delay shows they're desperate to push ahead with the shorter extension but they're faced with complex difficulties which could produce a mass of legal claims and refund claims.

a) remember that they've promoted .co.uk domains as a solid investment over the years to businesses and to the domaining community. They've even attended domaining conferences around the world promoting .co.uk domains

b) they introduced multi year registrations just before these consultations started. People who have been tempted to buy 10 year registrations may want their money back if an alternative, shorter (and in their mind better) domain is now introduced.

c) the short domain auction that raised £3m for nominet is an almighty problem because the most valuable .co.uk domains were auctioned last making them the newest registrant.

There are so many law firms looking for any excuse to bring actions i.e. missold - ppi, card protection, isas, pensions. Why not missold domains? How would nominet deal with a flood of claims if they now relegate .co.uk domains to the second division? Small claims are not expensive or hard for a claimant to initiate but particularly difficult and expensive for large organisations to handle on a mass scale. So, in my opinion, nominet are like a rabbit staring in the headlights and don't know what to do.

I've racked my brains to think why not just put a simple news release saying, the update is delayed and won't be put out in early November as promised, we understand peoples frustration and would ask you to be patient.

 

[Paullas]

I've racked my brains to think why not just put a simple news release saying, the update is delayed and won't be put out in early November as promised, we understand peoples frustration and would ask you to be patient.

Because they are not interested in the smaller registras now, i bet you though they have beenin contact with the top registras telling them the situation, The nominet membership means nothing. I for one have given up on nominet now and i know quite a few have also so i couldnt care less if they released it or not but i do hope the bigger companies take action against them and shake nominet up a bit as that is what is needed to (IMHO).

Nominet have never liked the domain aftermarket so this is there way of getting rid of it, and it has worked so well done nominet, i just hope when all the claims come in, all the .uk domains never get renewed and there revenue drops they will fade away in the background while the other tlds being released thrive and i think they will as no one will trust nominet as they dont have a future plan but do have a plan to fill their pockets as they know now with all the other tlds begin released they dont have a cat in hell chance of making the same amount of money as they used to so they need a get rich quick scheme now before the shit hits the fan.

 

[foz]

Nominet have never liked the domain aftermarket so this is there way of getting rid of it, and it has worked so well done nominet, i just hope when all the claims come in, all the .uk domains never get renewed and there revenue drops they will fade away in the background while the other tlds being released thrive and i think they will as no one will trust nominet as they dont have a future plan but do have a plan to fill their pockets as they know now with all the other tlds begin released they dont have a cat in hell chance of making the same amount of money as they used to so they need a get rich quick scheme now before the shit hits the fan.

That scenario is covered.
http://tld.nominet.org.uk/index.aspx
http://domainincite.com/12539-icann-selects-new-gtld-backup-providers

Get rid of the matriarch and the company culture of Nominet may change. She'll do anything to remain numero uno.

 

[aZooZa]

Agree with you there Tinky. Utter contempt for the existing registrants. I think the delay shows they're desperate to push ahead with the shorter extension but they're faced with complex difficulties which could produce a mass of legal claims and refund claims.

a) remember that they've promoted .co.uk domains as a solid investment over the years to businesses and to the domaining community. They've even attended domaining conferences around the world promoting .co.uk domains

b) they introduced multi year registrations just before these consultations started. People who have been tempted to buy 10 year registrations may want their money back if an alternative, shorter (and in their mind better) domain is now introduced.

c) the short domain auction that raised £3m for nominet is an almighty problem because the most valuable .co.uk domains were auctioned last making them the newest registrant.

There are so many law firms looking for any excuse to bring actions i.e. missold - ppi, card protection, isas, pensions. Why not missold domains? How would nominet deal with a flood of claims if they now relegate .co.uk domains to the second division? Small claims are not expensive or hard for a claimant to initiate but particularly difficult and expensive for large organisations to handle on a mass scale. So, in my opinion, nominet are like a rabbit staring in the headlights and don't know what to do.

Exactly my view. Perfect summary.

 

[Stephen]

Nominet are hurting themselves long term

That scenario is covered.
http://tld.nominet.org.uk/index.aspx
http://domainincite.com/12539-icann-selects-new-gtld-backup-providers

Get rid of the matriarch and the company culture of Nominet may change. She'll do anything to remain numero uno.

Thanks for posting.

Trust in "Nominet" is not high, as seen by a recent Acorn poll and so their marketing for tld work is flawed and as time goes by it may be shown that they have a growing number that are not happy with the way they are acting and running the UK namespace.
Some of those, I would imagine are rubbing there hands at the moment as Nominet are annoying more people regardless of what they have decided, it is easier than ever to get people to oppose Nominet, maybe next time enough to get a different voting outcome on non-executive directors.
Or even enough disillusionment to get an EGM and have a radical restructuring.

Nominet has shown with the current decision on .uk announcement that they cannot act quickly or communicate effectively in my view,
they are not a fit organization to act as a back up for a failed ICANN GTLD as identified in the second link.

 

[Stephen]

What a farce

This has today been posted on Nominet forum by an established and respected domainer.

It's a shame that those in the higher echelons at Nominet don't have the good manners and customer relationship skills as those that are employed in the front line support department. What a farce.

I thought I would share it, as it is one of the views on the current .uk subject that I also hold.

 

[markb]

The longer this silence goes on, I think it is looking more and more likely they have decided to go ahead with the launch of the .uk and are looking at the best way to release the news.

 

[Paullas]

The longer this silence goes on, I think it is looking more and more likely they have decided to go ahead with the launch of the .uk and are looking at the best way to release the news.

And also trying to find a quick exit strategy when the shit hits the fan

 

[aZooZa]

I believe there's a lot of apathy creeping in now. I'm feeling it myself. Almost to the point where I couldn't really care what they do, just as long as they announce it and don't keep any doors ajar that they then come back to reopen in the future. Whatever you think you want to do Nominet, let's have it and stop glamping at the fork in the road.

Some businesses have plans they are ready to roll out in line with all scenarios. Why prevaricate and prolong such a state of flux? Grossly irresponsible in my view.