.UK Consultation meeting

[TinkyWinky]

My new puppy could do that role better than is happening now - sorry I lie...

" ◦Effectively Lead and manage the Membership team "

Not going to happen... he's a bit selfish at the moment...

11 jobs available... didn't see one for the new "Shit hits fan .UK Co-ordinator though" ...

Legal Counsel - that made me laugh... they expecting some grief fairly soon?

TW

We will have to wait for the new Head of Membership Engagement
before we receive any .uk news.

http://apply.jobs.nominet.org.uk/vacancy/head-of-membership-engagement-167087.html





if anybody applies and gets the job could they please send me the standard recruitment fee.
This is one of 11 jobs currently being advertised by Nominet.

 

[Stephen]

Nominet Jobs x 11

Link for all 11 jobs open at Nominet;

http://apply.jobs.nominet.org.uk/vacancies.html#

Hopefully some of these costs will be allocated to .wales and will not just be used to push an excuse for .co.uk renewal rates to increase.

Unless there is a big Nominet walk out and they need to replace current staff, 11 new staff, that is a big base cost increase.

 

[anthony]

...Unless there is a big Nominet walk out and they need to replace current staff, 11 new staff, that is a big base cost increase.

Bearing in mind the shit load of money they have to give away every year to the NT, they can clearly afford to employ these, and many more besides.

 

[Edwin]

They have 126 staff (2012 annual report figure) so 11 more isn't a crazy number at all.

 

[websaway]

One would think that after all the trouble Nominet customers went to in responding to, not one, but two consultation requests, they would have the decency to issue a progress report promised for early November, or at least issue a statement as to the reason for the delay.

 

[Edwin]

If you've not read them yet and fancy something to pass the time, here are all the published responses to V2 that I know of...
http://www.webmastering.co.uk/domain-names/early-feedback-on-nominet-v2-uk-domain-consultation/

 

[Stephen]

Nominet page

Just looking at the .uk page on Nominet site and I thought the number of replies was higher than 300 and they were going to communicate 'decision' not outcome and they put a date of early November to publish, which does not appear to be mentioned?

The information I can remember, may have been on some other communique, so I might be getting mixed up.

http://www.nominet.org.uk/how-participate/policy-development/current-policy-discussions-and-consultations/registration-second

This consultation has now closed. We received over 300 responses, and would like to thank everyone who responded for their time and effort.

In addition to the consultation, we have gathered views from stakeholders through four roundtable sessions, as well as other stakeholder meetings. The Nominet Board will consider the feedback received, and the outcome will be communicated. We will also publish submissions, where permission has been given to do so.

 

[Rob_F]

Just looking at the .uk page on Nominet site and I thought the number of replies was higher than 300 and they were going to communicate 'decision' not outcome and they put a date of early November to publish, which does not appear to be mentioned?

The information I can remember, may have been on some other communique, so I might be getting mixed up.

http://www.nominet.org.uk/how-participate/policy-development/current-policy-discussions-and-consultations/registration-second

Nom email: [nom-announce] Update on policy consultations

"The feedback will be reviewed by our Board at their next meeting on 29th October. Once a decision has been reached on the way forward, we will publish submissions, where permission has been given to do so, and an assessment of the impact of the current proposal. We expect to publish our update in early November."

 

[websaway]

Registration of second level domain names

We would like to thank everyone who took the time to read the proposals and respond. We received 313 consultation responses, as well as feedback from four roundtable sessions, stakeholder meetings, emails and a webinar.

The feedback will be reviewed by our Board at their next meeting on 29th October. Once a decision has been reached on the way forward, we will publish submissions, where permission has been given to do so, and an assessment of the impact of the current proposal. We expect to publish our update in early November.


http://www.nominet.org.uk/news/latest/update-policy-consultations

 

[websaway]

Spoke to someone at Nominet today and they said that they will pass on my concerns and say that the delay could have been posted on Nominet's website so as to let people know the announcement was not going to be early November as suggested .
He seemed to think it would be before the end of the month. He added it was very complex.
He also added that when the announcement is made if I would like to talk to them about how the decision effects me they would be happy to help.

Read into that what you will.

 

[Edwin]

From that comment, sounds it's going ahead, in some form.

After all, it's not "complex" to say "nope, no change".

But we might get another consultation, if we're lucky.

Beyond that, I'm not going to speculate - it's unhealthy revisiting this day after day when no new info is available... all it does is raise the blood pressure!

 

[websaway]

From that comment, sounds it's going ahead, in some form.

After all, it's not "complex" to say "nope, no change".

But we might get another consultation, if we're lucky.

I read the comments from nominet on your twitter.

In reality further consultation would be a worst case scenario.

 

[Brassneck]

Spoke to someone at Nominet today and they said that they will pass on my concerns and say that the delay could have been posted on Nominet's website so as to let people know the announcement was not going to be early November as suggested .
He seemed to think it would be before the end of the month. He added it was very complex.
He also added that when the announcement is made if I would like to talk to them about how the decision effects me they would be happy to help.

Read into that what you will.

Thanks for sharing.

Stephen.

 

[Edwin]

In reality further consultation would be a worst case scenario.

Not really. The longer the delay, the more MPs can be consulted, FOI requests raised etc. Plus if it drags on beyond the new GTLD launch and the first few crash and burn out of the gate (which is highly likely) then the only rationale put forward for .uk no longer applies.

Yes, the uncertainty hurts us all - but if a further delay means it can ultimately be stopped, that seems more desirable than having it go forward.

 

[websaway]

Not really. The longer the delay, the more MPs can be consulted, FOI requests raised etc. Plus if it drags on beyond the new GTLD launch and the first few crash and burn out of the gate (which is highly likely) then the only rationale put forward for .uk no longer applies.

Yes, the uncertainty hurts us all - but if a further delay means it can ultimately be stopped, that seems more desirable than having it go forward.

I'm inclined to think that another consultation would further add to the already lack of confidence in the UK extensions. The people who buy uk's and the people who advertise them by simply owning and using them are the lifeblood, there will come a time when those people move out of the namespace out of the industry or just stop using a website, preferring other methods as a way of marketing their services.

 

[Stephen]

15th is mid not early

Spoke to someone at Nominet today and they said that they will pass on my concerns and say that the delay could have been posted on Nominet's website so as to let people know the announcement was not going to be early November as suggested .
He seemed to think it would be before the end of the month. He added it was very complex.
He also added that when the announcement is made if I would like to talk to them about how the decision effects me they would be happy to help.

Read into that what you will.

Thanks for contacting them and posting.

15th is mid not early, so I think they will do at least an interim announcement about .uk today before going off to Brazil, based on past actions of wanting to appear to keep promises and engage with everybody.

 

[foz]

Thanks for contacting them and posting.

15th is mid not early, so I think they will do at least an interim announcement about .uk today before going off to Brazil, based on past actions of wanting to appear to keep promises and engage with everybody.

Lets face it the top 10-20 registrars have the power now. All the other members are now viewed as bottom feeders. Membership engagement is just gibberish. Behind closed doors the hierarchy will talk one-on-one with the players.

 

[Stephen]

no update on .uk at all

Spoke to someone at Nominet today and they said that they will pass on my concerns and say that the delay could have been posted on Nominet's website so as to let people know the announcement was not going to be early November as suggested .
He seemed to think it would be before the end of the month. He added it was very complex.
He also added that when the announcement is made if I would like to talk to them about how the decision effects me they would be happy to help.

Read into that what you will.

I phoned Nominet this morning, did not get same answer as you.

Just "no update on .uk, when it is published it will be on the website."

No plans even to provide on update on statement to release decision in early November.

 

[websaway]

Lets face it the top 10-20 registrars have the power now. All the other members are now viewed as bottom feeders. Membership engagement is just gibberish. Behind closed doors the hierarchy will talk one-on-one with the players.

Even the most pro .uk entities must look at this situation ( this particular issue ) and conclude that the treatment of Nominet customers is shabby.

It is simple to post on the Nominet website that the update is being delayed.

Because courtesy is inexpensive, I for one have to deduce that the delay in any form of communication is part of a strategy and not simple inefficiency.

 

[foz]

The players like Godaddy will get what they want (biggest channel to market).

.uk domains.
Retain expired inventory.
Ability to change registrant owner.