.UK Announced

[WealdDomains]

http://www.theyworkforyou.com/wms/?id=2012-12-03a.41WS.6&s=Internet+domain+names#g41WS.7

Interesting to note that the "UK’s leading source of unbiased, factual and easy-to-understand information on online safety" is at a .org https://www.getsafeonline.org/about-us/

 

[Stephen]

use of UK namespace

Interesting to note that the "UK’s leading source of unbiased, factual and easy-to-understand information on online safety" is at a .org https://www.getsafeonline.org/about-us/

Thanks have just sent them the link to the latest security article on .uk proposal
http://www.out-law.com/en/articles/2013/january/digital-rights-campaigners-warn-of-nominet-gaining-monopoly-over-trust-and-security-with-new-uk-domain-offering/
and a link to my document "What is wrong with the Nominet .uk proposal?" at www.ukproposal.org.uk - hope they might talk some sense into Nominet.

Note that Nominet are an Associate Partner of getsafeonline

https://www.getsafeonline.org/partners-and-supporters/

Yet although getsafeonline own getsafeonline.org.uk (and .co.uk and .com) and they redirect, they do not use .org.uk as their main website or email address.

Nominet really need to ensure that .co.uk or .org.uk domains are used to increase profile and useage of UK namespace, wherever possible.

Have raised this issue with Nominet and they state they have now requested Nominet Trust to add the condition that the recipients of monies are using a .co.uk or .org.uk domain as they have given money to organizations using a variety of non UK tld's in the past.

Also worth noting https://www.getsafeonline.org/news/ and the blog page does not contain anything about the Nominet .uk proposal, not even its is launch email, I wonder if getsafeonline.org were told about the consultation by Nominet?

 

[websaway]

Simple heads up links.


http://www.out-law.com/en/articles/...ust-and-security-with-new-uk-domain-offering/


http://www.openrightsgroup.org/ourwork/reports/nominet-direct-uk

 

[websaway]

Save me trawling through it all.

Can anyone say how a sale and transfer of registrant for the proposed .uk domain would work ?

 

[Whois-Search]

Can anyone say how a sale and transfer of registrant for the proposed .uk domain would work ?

Looks like the new registrant would just have to re-validate their address (not to mention the DNSSEC):

The new direct.uk service would require re-validation of registrant contact data if an when the domain name is renewed, and also if the domain name is transferred to a new registrant.

http://www.nominet.org.uk/sites/default/files/Nominet_FINAL_electronic_form3_0.pdf

 

[Stephen]

Debate in Parliament?

It is not over yet, just because the Nominet consultation has closed.

MP who raised the question about .uk proposal in the Houses of Parliament, which was kindly brought onto this thread by Andrew Bennett - www.whois-search.com

A quote from the Minister on Tuesday:
Hansard source (Citation: HC Deb, 8 January 2013, c213W)
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/wrans/?id=2013-01-08a.135025.h&s=nominet

I send them my document "What is wrong with the Nominet .uk proposal?" which can be downloaded at ukproposal.org.uk and a few other useful links and he has replied with:

Dear Mr Wilde,

Thank you for your email - I am meeting Nominet and may call for a debate in Parliament on the issue.

Best wishes
Stephen
Stephen McPartland
Member of Parliament for Stevenage

Lets hope he takes it all the way!

 

[GreyWing]

It is not over yet, just because the Nominet consultation has closed.

MP who raised the question about .uk proposal in the Houses of Parliament, which was kindly brought onto this thread by Andrew Bennett - www.whois-search.com

I send them my document "What is wrong with the Nominet .uk proposal?" which can be downloaded at ukproposal.org.uk and a few other useful links and he has replied with:

Lets hope he takes it all the way!

Get him to ask what I asked the Minister..... Even if this is dropped, how is it even possible that around just 7 people without any kind of democratic oversight could decide this kind thing on behalf of 10 million domains.

Even if it was my best friend in charge of Nominet, the whole thing needs opening up to scrutiny.

But great stuff Stephen, oh how those few people at Nominet wish they could turn back the clock. :cry:

 

[websaway]

It is not over yet, just because the Nominet consultation has closed.

MP who raised the question about .uk proposal in the Houses of Parliament, which was kindly brought onto this thread by Andrew Bennett - www.whois-search.com



I send them my document "What is wrong with the Nominet .uk proposal?" which can be downloaded at ukproposal.org.uk and a few other useful links and he has replied with:



Lets hope he takes it all the way!

Brilliant ! A very good result.

 

[websaway]

Looks like the new registrant would just have to re-validate their address (not to mention the DNSSEC):



http://www.nominet.org.uk/sites/default/files/Nominet_FINAL_electronic_form3_0.pdf

So am I right in ascertaining that a .uk domain in it's current proposed form would have, or could have, a limited aftersales market ?

 

[Nigel]

It is not over yet, just because the Nominet consultation has closed.

MP who raised the question about .uk proposal in the Houses of Parliament, which was kindly brought onto this thread by Andrew Bennett - www.whois-search.com



I send them my document "What is wrong with the Nominet .uk proposal?" which can be downloaded at ukproposal.org.uk and a few other useful links and he has replied with:



Lets hope he takes it all the way!

Stephen - well done - that's great news that Stephen McPartland is meeting with nominet and may get a debate in Parliament. This consultation is now going to get the scrutiny it deserves. I have just written to Ed Vaizey MP (copied to Stephen McPartland) letting him know that most small businesses including millions of .co.uk registrants have not been informed about direct.uk because Nominet did not email them. I've sent them both a copy of my correspondence with nominet - although I'm still awaiting a reply to my latest letter.

 

[monaghan]

Am I the only one who's had their MP give a useful response?

Has anyone else had anything positive from their MP? Perhaps if enough MP's question it there could be further pressure applied (or at least further visibility of the issue)

 

[Stephen]

Am I the only one who's had their MP give a useful response?

Has anyone else had anything positive from their MP? Perhaps if enough MP's question it there could be further pressure applied (or at least further visibility of the issue)

No I have not even received a reply from MP's I have contacted apart from 10 Downing Street it will be passed on to the relevant department and nothing disappointingly from Ed Vaizey MP of the culture dept overseeing Nominet.

Well done Alex in getting Stephen McPartland MP interested enough to raise the first question as without that and the emails he received he might not have taken it further.

I suggest a few more emails to Stephen McPartland MP from as many people as possible as well as follow up's to our own MP's saying they are not fighting hard enough.

 

[Nigel]

No I have not even received a reply from MP's I have contacted apart from 10 Downing Street it will be passed on to the relevant department and nothing disappointingly from Ed Vaizey MP of the culture dept overseeing Nominet.

Well done Alex in getting Stephen McPartland MP interested enough to raise the first question as without that and the emails he received he might not have taken it further.

I suggest a few more emails to Stephen McPartland MP from as many people as possible as well as follow up's to our own MP's saying they are not fighting hard enough.

Yes - well done Alex - you've got a diligent and hardworking MP in Stephen McPartland

Stephen - have you had any form of acknowledgement from Ed Vaizey? I immediately got an automatic acknowledgement from Stephen McPartland. I used the email address at this link for Ed Vaizey:
http://www.parliament.uk/biographies/commons/edward-vaizey/35502
I think its important that we get at least get an acknowledgement from him - to show that he got all the info - and I'll be chasing for one in a couple of days if nothing is heard.

 

[monaghan]

Perhaps some with a Labour MP might want to push from the other side so both parties are asking questions.

 

[GreyWing]

I have had a response from Ed Vaizey, he wrote back to me via my MP last month saying he is happy with the way the consultation is being conducted. So I have gone back through my MP with more specific questions.

Luckily my MP is in the shadow ministry to Ed Vaizey, so he is kind of interested from the start. Especially about rights of people to their IP. An ex Para (can't win em all :lol but he seems to be smart enough not be to spun a load of garbage from anyone.

 

[Nigel]

I have had a response from Ed Vaizey, he wrote back to me via my MP last month saying he is happy with the way the consultation is being conducted. So I have gone back through my MP with more specific questions.

Luckily my MP is in the shadow ministry to Ed Vaizey, so he is kind of interested from the start. Especially about rights of people to their IP. An ex Para (can't win em all :lol but he seems to be smart enough not be to spun a load of garbage from anyone.

I'm specifically quizzing Ed Vaizey about his statement to Parliament that 'Nominet has informed Government that its consultation is gathering perspectives from a broad range of stakeholders - including small businesses and their representatives'. I don't believe that statement accurately reflects the way in which Nominet has gathered information from small businesses i.e. because Nominet never sent one email directly to the millions of .co.uk domain registrants. which use the .co.uk domain for their businesses, to inform them about the consultation. I asked him whether he has been made aware of that fact by Nominet. I said that Parliament needs to be told. There was quite a lot of other relevant information that I updated him on.

 

[GreyWing]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...ominet-plan-for-secure-.uk-web-addresses.html

Children's Charities attack .uk

 

[monaghan]

Good to see someone other than one of us lot publishing this sort of statement!

 

[Nigel]

Good to hear this from the .org.uk camp and on the telegraph.co.uk website. There's a lot of flak coming from all sides now. This latest criticism is a very tricky one for nominet and the individual charities might also start asking - 'why weren't we informed about this consultation? doesn't our feedback count too?'

 

[topcat]

There are 246 pages here, could someone give me a brief overview as to why I should be against the .uk suffix?

Thanks