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To vape or not to vape...

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Horses for courses. If the drug we're unsafe then it would not be prescribed nor widely available. Plus I'd rather not have to pay for cigarette substitutes for the rest of my days (nor pseudo smoke).

Rather than diss it as you have (you state you work in the pharma industry but that does not make you an expert on the subject) I would recommend anyone that wants to give up to discuss it with their GP (as I suggested) to see if it is appropriate. Having a choice of solutions is fundamental when searching for a solution to the problem.

Don't get me wrong. I am not dissing this and I do appreciate any info on the subject. Simply varenicline recently went into "black box warning" in States which is last stage before banning. You can read it here and here.

I simply know about this as some time ago a was preparing a marketing campaign on varenicline for a producer which was put on hold and later cancelled due to all the above.
 
Horses for courses. If the drug we're unsafe then it would not be prescribed nor widely available. Plus I'd rather not have to pay for cigarette substitutes for the rest of my days (nor pseudo smoke).

Rather than diss it as you have (you state you work in the pharma industry but that does not make you an expert on the subject) I would recommend anyone that wants to give up to discuss it with their GP (as I suggested) to see if it is appropriate. Having a choice of solutions is fundamental when searching for a solution to the problem.

I think you two just have a different approach, so it would make sense that you both see more problems with the solution you dont go for. If there are more issues with this drug than normal, it could be the wrong decision for some, either way it worked for you, so was certainly the right choice. Expertc might stick with the ecigs for a while, than use that as a route to quit completely. Either way it's healthier than smoking cigs, so I think you've both made really positive steps to improve your health.

There are a few people in my life who I wish would be more proactive in overcoming this habit. It's a point people have to reach on their own though I guess (unfortunately).
 
I'll never give up smoking, I was not brought up to be a quitter.
 
Have given up on smoking since a few months, still smoke when im out drinking or at a party but the rest of the week im off them.

Really hope I can keep it up like this as I love my smokes while having a drink but dont want to go back to being a fulltime smoker anymore
 
BTW, it's amazing when you take a step back and do the math how much not smoking can be "worth". At current prices (and cigarettes increase relentlessly every year) a 20-a-day habit would cost from just over £2,000 to over £2,500 a year depending on which cigarettes you're used to!
 
I'd love to only smoke when I drink... wait a minute... I do only smoke when I drink. Or I only drink when I smoke. I'm confused now, no wonder I drink.... or smoke!
 
BTW, it's amazing when you take a step back and do the math how much not smoking can be "worth". At current prices (and cigarettes increase relentlessly every year) a 20-a-day habit would cost from just over £2,000 to over £2,500 a year depending on which cigarettes you're used to!

C'mon Edwin, we all know you are not yankie, no excuse for "do the math" everyone knows it ends with an "s" :)

Costs me next to bugger all to be a smoker here in Spain, I pay more for skins and tips, hence this post on my site http://legalisecannabis.co.uk/cheap-cigarette-papers-and-filter-tips/
 
BTW, it's amazing when you take a step back and do the math how much not smoking can be "worth". At current prices (and cigarettes increase relentlessly every year) a 20-a-day habit would cost from just over £2,000 to over £2,500 a year depending on which cigarettes you're used to!

Funnily enough I used a disc which I picked somewhere in the UK which you can turn around and shows you how much money you save while not smoking.. And to be honest, I didn't gave a shit about it... Money is money, just like I drive/drove(crashed it on Monday) which consumes way too much.

I think the decision on giving up smoking should be made solely on the basis that it improves your health (performance in bed) and not based on money
 
Me too, money is not an incentive for me to stop smoking. I just love smoking and I don't want to stop. Why would I give up such a wonderful pleasure? To live an extra 5 years on this fucked up planet? No thanks, I'm quite happy with my fags and with any luck I'll die before my kids have to wipe my arse.
You non smokers will live long enough to get your arse wiped by your own kids, I wouldn't put my kids through that. And you say smokers are inconsiderate :)
 
Well I was a 20 a day man for 30+ years, the last 6 months I managed to get down to 10 cigs a day and April 22nd this year I had my last one.

It has helped me stop by having the occasional Nicorette chewing gum, more so when I get wound up than a ciggy craving. I did try the mints and mouth spray but the gum suited me better.

Not sure why I quit, I think I was just bored ! Now I'm a non smoking, non gambling, teetotal, celibate hermit. Might go veggy next :)

Why am I still skint though ?

Gary
 
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