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Davey Thornton - you can be such an unconscionable twat. Why not extricate yourself from this while you can and walk away with some of your credibility intact?

Are you seriously suggesting that our DAC/EPP hosted clients would never care about confidentiality?

Some are happy to pat us on the back in public. Some prefer to remain anonymous. Some don't care. We don't ask them when they sign up.

As far as showing details of our user interface is concerned - all screens are published on our website - all visible without having to sign up or register. If you don't know what the URL is, I won't be publishing it here in an inspirational flash of self promotion. But this is what you seem to do - or more accurately, something along the lines of 'ego promotion' - and you stroke it most cruelly, excruciatingly boringly and relentlessly - giving others the impression that you 'know it all'.

Many things you have posted in this thread are flawed, incomplete, or downright daft.
 
I haven't checked in a while, but all those either do or have offered DAC/EPP hosting. I've been with the same host for a year now, and with the previous one about a year, so its been a while since I looked it up.

You don't want to discuss what you do (I'm assuming your hiding something, just because you said that how it works), so lets speak in broad terms.

You're secretive for a reason. In your market, do you publish information about your clients? what you do for them ? and how much you charge? Do you publically share how much it costs you to do what you do ?

In order for new business to determine if you are better than someone else who does what you do ?

How much transparency do you offer for public consumption ?

Broad terms, yes or no answers to my questions are fine.

In my opinion, the missing link about who hosts my dac/epp would provide most of the above information, hence asking if you publically share the same.

If a dac/epp host insisted on sharing names I had caught with no option not to hide them, I wouldn't use them. I don't want my end users and buyers to know what I costs me. Just as I bet pennies to pounds you don't share how much it actually costs you for whatever it is you peddle.
 
David, those that are 'in the know' are already aware that I am able to get away with a 'one liner' because they know I know what I'm talking about. If they don't, I'm not concerned about their perceptions of me anyway. You seem to be constantly looking for peer love, much like the most unpopular boy at school probably would.

Rack Sense? I haven't dealt with them for eons. What have they got to do with anything anyway?

All our customers have a counter on their own control panel which shows their exact DAC usage. They thus know we don't fiddle with DAC allowances. We can command relatively high annual hosting fees (£3200+ in advance) because we are successful and can be trusted not to breach basic confidences.
 
I'm taking that to mean, you don't share anything unless you're forced to do so. So you don't volunteer anything, I also assume you would fight against the things you propose here if they was transposed on to your market.

Its funny how people can be so liberal with markets other than their own.

You're in serious danger of starting to remind me of politicians, who go on about balancing the books and how a 1% increase in the NHS is too much, and we need to cut back on spending, and these are times of austerity, and we're in it together yet when it comes to their own game they get 11% pay increase, expenses, benefits and subsidised alcohol and food etc.
 
Not going to exhaustively quote Thornton verbatim. I have other fish to fry on a Saturday lunchtime here in Thailand.

So in bulk to him:

No, you've no need to think you're being clever by telling people how to telnet to the DAC to get their #usage. They all know.

Yes the interface has been the same since 2008. The catching code has been regularly refined by Simon.

No, you don't know how many customers we have. Nor are you likely to unless they all post here of their own volition.

Suggesting that I patronise you means that the message is getting through.
 
You presume everyone knows. I know some that didn't but does now. Many probably have a tag and use DAC/EPP hosts but don't know how to use a telnet prompt, unfortunately.



I do think you write more fluff and less substance than you could do. :)
A very limp 'filler' reply from you. My replies could certainly be more substantive but in the context of this thread I choose not to make them so.

Now stop trying to gainsay me and perhaps get some kip. Anyway, I only really read replies you make from 'iPad -K'.
 
I didn't think I could add anything else, tonight.



If I didn't know you better I'd suggest you are racking your brains to figure out what "K" stands for. :p (FYI it's there so I know where I was when I posted something and also which device I used in case the post doesn't show up properly).

Gnite.
Well I know it was from the kitchen but didn't want to burst that bubble for you. No more now unless from 'Device -B', or maybe 'Device -S' 10 minutes before.
 
Nothing is stopping someone setting up that business model, DropSystem, Drop and DomainJunky all do this. The more you bid the higher the priority, and more resources you get. Just like real life, there are many different business models, people choose different ones for different reasons.

DomainJunky doesn't give differing priorities depending on fee, all customers are equal.
 
DomainJunky doesn't give differing priorities depending on fee, all customers are equal.

Same with DropSystem. All customers get EXACTLY the same resources for the period of hosted time that they purchase.
 
Why do you have a limit (is adding an extra server so difficult?) and how do you decide what the limit is? How do your customers know that there really is a limit if they don't know who the other customers are? :) If someone came along and wanted to pay you more than an existing customer for a slot, wouldn't it possibly be good business sense to consider terminating a customer that can only pay less and replacing that customer with one that will pay you more? This is supposed to be proper business, at arms length, after all.

Your limit is the DAC quota and I'm sure different catchers use this in different ways, but the quota per membership is fixed.

Surely if a new customer wants a private back-end, we'd add a new one as needed, no sense in terminating the other customer.

The DAC/EPP host is a business itself. A good business usually wants to maximise profit. If a successful DAC/EPP host isn't permitted, by its customers, to advertise its catching successes then how can it ensure it maximises profit by attracting more or higher paying customer?

Are domainers really that stupid that they can't find out who's catching what? If you want to make them publish what they do, then why not publish the sale prices as well?

The flaw here is all it takes is one of the customers to leak whatever it is they have access to, be it the interface (or lack of interface) and options available. Customers change services (that's normal) so this sort of stuff isn't confidential. Again, if DAC/EPP hosts published details of actually what they offered customers they might attract better and higher paying customers to their services.

Nothing I do is confidential, can't speak for others, but I fail to see why other people's business model is so important to you? Perhaps you could publish your business model in a new thread for others to pull apart :)
 
Surely they would do if they are Nominet members providing their own membership? Every member gets the same allowance. In respect of the resources YOU provide, I assume you mean server performance, network connectivity performance etc. :)
You're all smoke and mirrors. Yes, of course I mean that.
 
But you're commenting on a thread that's discussing an established trusted member catching a lot of domains.

It sounds like you already know its possible to dominate without cheating so how is the issue of multiple tags and cheating related to this thread and why did you even bring up the topic of cheating when what was basically a single members rant about the lack of domains he's catching.

This is why I removed the first thread, it made insinuations about the integrity of a member only based on the facts that he's catching a lot and you dont understand how he's doing it.

All that needs to be said is well done, congrats on the catches and it must have taken a lot of work to achieve this level of success.
 
There's no such thing as speculative epp creates, you have to be within 2ms to catch a domain I'd say and this means each create would stand 1 in 43 million chance of registering any particular domain.

How would 1000 extra creates help?
 
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