Playing with undeveloped.com

Murray · Jul 31, 2019

What is the benefit of Dan vs something like DomainManage?

What do you get for the 9% commission

BG · Jul 31, 2019

TRUK said:
Can you elaborate this? Give us an example. Because recently I am fed up with tyre-kickers who want and think a domain should be valued max GBP100.

To stop that from happening you should simply go into your control panel and default 'ALL' offers above your minimum offer threshold e.g. $1,000 - That way no time is then being wasted on either side. (Just a thought)

TRUK · Jul 31, 2019

BG said:
To stop that from happening you should simply go into your control panel and default 'ALL' offers above your minimum offer threshold e.g. $1,000 - That way no time is then being wasted on either side. (Just a thought)

That does not work. If you do that you create an impression that the price is $1,000, which is not true.

TRUK · Jul 31, 2019

New offer
£50
JB
Jul 18, 11:12
Offer declined
£50
You
Jul 18, 12:25
Counter offer
£3,600
You
Jul 18, 12:25
JB
Offer declined
£3,600
JB
Jul 18, 12:27
Message
Make an offer?
You
Jul 18, 12:28
JB
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Good luck with getting that much. Bradbury.co.uk is completely unused, there is no demand for it. I was gonna use it for personal emails. Was willing to negotiate with your type (though through gritted teeth) but if you are going to be ridiculous, pricing things with 0 research then suit yourself.
JB
Jul 18, 12:31
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Then go and buy bradbury.co.uk and do not waste my time again!
You
Jul 18, 12:33
JB
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It is taken, but unused. Waste your time? Lol I guarantee I am literally the only person who will give you an offer for this in the next 10 years. So like I said, good luck bud.
JB
Jul 18, 12:36
JB
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If you want to sell the domain at a reasonable price, hit me up.
JB
Jul 18, 12:37
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What is the reasonable price in your opinion then?
You
Jul 18, 12:39
JB
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I mean, I suppose in this case you are the expert. But I do think 3.6k is egregious. So I dunno I guess around £100? Though I have no frame of reference. I suppose you normally do the back and forth bartering? Should we just make offers until we agree?
Jul 18, 12:42
JB
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What do you normally sell vanity domains for if you don't mind my asking?
Jul 18, 12:44
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You can't buy this domain name for a few GBP100s
You
Jul 18, 12:44
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I am not here to educate you. If you want to buy bradbury.uk you need to offer higher than GBP1,000
You
Jul 18, 12:46
JB
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Damn, well maybe someday ill be loaded enough to throw that money your way. Though I imagine you'll be waiting a while. Though the domain was for my partner but I doubt she'll have that surname for much longer anyway. Good luck out there.
Jul 18, 12:47
JB
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My apologies for wasting your time.
Jul 18, 12:50
Message
change your partner with a surname for which the domain name is available. Good luck

lazarus · Jul 31, 2019

TRUK said:
change your partner with a surname for which the domain name is available. Good luck

Drops the mic..

TRUK · Jul 31, 2019

lazarus said:
Drops the mic

I would appreciate if you do not quote my messages.

lazarus · Jul 31, 2019

Why is that ? LOL

JMI · Jul 31, 2019

TRUK said:
New offer
£50
JB
Jul 18, 11:12
Offer declined
£50
You
Jul 18, 12:25
Counter offer
£3,600
You
Jul 18, 12:25
JB
Offer declined
£3,600
JB
Jul 18, 12:27
Message
Make an offer?
You
Jul 18, 12:28
JB
Message
Good luck with getting that much. Bradbury.co.uk is completely unused, there is no demand for it. I was gonna use it for personal emails. Was willing to negotiate with your type (though through gritted teeth) but if you are going to be ridiculous, pricing things with 0 research then suit yourself.
JB
Jul 18, 12:31
Message
Then go and buy bradbury.co.uk and do not waste my time again!
You
Jul 18, 12:33
JB
Message
It is taken, but unused. Waste your time? Lol I guarantee I am literally the only person who will give you an offer for this in the next 10 years. So like I said, good luck bud.
JB
Jul 18, 12:36
JB
Message
If you want to sell the domain at a reasonable price, hit me up.
JB
Jul 18, 12:37
Message
What is the reasonable price in your opinion then?
You
Jul 18, 12:39
JB
Message
I mean, I suppose in this case you are the expert. But I do think 3.6k is egregious. So I dunno I guess around £100? Though I have no frame of reference. I suppose you normally do the back and forth bartering? Should we just make offers until we agree?
Jul 18, 12:42
JB
Message
What do you normally sell vanity domains for if you don't mind my asking?
Jul 18, 12:44
Message
You can't buy this domain name for a few GBP100s
You
Jul 18, 12:44
Message
I am not here to educate you. If you want to buy bradbury.uk you need to offer higher than GBP1,000
You
Jul 18, 12:46
JB
Message
Damn, well maybe someday ill be loaded enough to throw that money your way. Though I imagine you'll be waiting a while. Though the domain was for my partner but I doubt she'll have that surname for much longer anyway. Good luck out there.
Jul 18, 12:47
JB
Message
My apologies for wasting your time.
Jul 18, 12:50
Message
change your partner with a surname for which the domain name is available. Good luck

I think this 2005 hard-baller approach is a negative way to negotiate with buyers which just results in lost sales and negative rep for domainers. When it's on DL for £150 in a few months time you may regret...

A low offer doesn't always mean time waster if they're uneducated.

TRUK · Jul 31, 2019

JMI said:
I think this 2005 hard-baller approach is a negative way to negotiate with buyers which just results in lost sales and negative rep for domainers. When it's on DL for £150 in a few months time you may regret...

A low offer doesn't always mean time waster if they're uneducated.

Hi JMI

Thanks for the advise. However, I can understand whether a potential buyer is a time-waster or an end-user in micro seconds; from his first offer, from his registration from short closed name or full open name in Dan, from time-intervals between his offers etc etc. So I would prefer to drop that name to sell for GBP100 to a time-waster who first says he will use it for his personal email and than as a gift to his partner.

Thanks for the advise again.

BG · Aug 1, 2019

TRUK said:
That does not work. If you do that you create an impression that the price is $1,000, which is not true.

It may be a good idea for you to bulk edit domains e.g. Any domain you’re happy to sell for £1k or above, same with £5k domains, then jump to £10k bulk edit and so on..

I’ve done the above and it works really well as it totally removes the lowball offers, plus saves loads of time in the long run.

For example: I won’t sell www.pinned.com for 10k, however, if I get an enquiry based on my minimum offer threshold (10k) , it shows me the buyer is serious and understands domains have value!

You have to remember, wording is key.. and when people make an offer on your domain which by default has a min offer applied, that wording on DAN displays as “ Your offer must be higher than $10,000 “ - To me that doesn’t say you’re going to sell the domain at this figure, it simply says if you want to play ball this is your entry level.

I know you may have hundreds / thousands of domain, but if you just take time to blast through the list you’ll save time in the long run batman

newguy · Aug 1, 2019

TRUK said:
change your partner with a surname for which the domain name is available. Good luck

We have a winner!

TRUK · Aug 1, 2019

BG said:
It may be a good idea for you to bulk edit domains e.g. Any domain you’re happy to sell for £1k or above, same with £5k domains, then jump to £10k bulk edit and so on..

I’ve done the above and it works really well as it totally removes the lowball offers, plus saves loads of time in the long run.

For example: I won’t sell www.pinned.com for 10k, however, if I get an enquiry based on my minimum offer threshold (10k) , it shows me the buyer is serious and understands domains have value!

You have to remember, wording is key.. and when people make an offer on your domain which by default has a min offer applied, that wording on DAN displays as “ Your offer must be higher than $10,000 “ - To me that doesn’t say you’re going to sell the domain at this figure, it simply says if you want to play ball this is your entry level.

I know you may have hundreds / thousands of domain, but if you just take time to blast through the list you’ll save time in the long run batman

Barry,

Thanks for the long and detailed info. I am sure people can use that to manage portfolios.

You know the human-being is greedy animal. So if you put $10K reserve to start, even an end-user can be repelled. However, if you have no reserve you can start with $20K counter-offer and by using his greed you can obtain $15K.

Besides it is funny to deal with tyre kickers some time to release some stress

jimmc · Aug 27, 2019

jimmc said:
I'm going to give undeveloped/dan a try and I'm on the sign up page. Is it best to use your own name or maybe register under a domain sale url you might have (Do you represent a company) gives another drop down for company name?

Regards, Jim.

Still trying to get started on this. It's been a month but been busy on other things. It seems to be you need to do more for all the options to work. Not sure if I need to change dns to point domains to their servers and others I've already got on thedomainghouse.com site.

I'd like to put 100 on there to see how it goes and use a BIN, make an offer, starting offer and rent options mix to try to work out what works.

Also, like many of you I've struggled with end-user valuations over the years. What tools do you use?

Regards,
Jim.