Osama Bin Laden confirmed dead

[namealot]

Osama or a “really cunning disguise” is it the end for Mr Bean

 

[FagEnd]

Really handy for him to be buried at sea within 24 hours. According to many analysts he has been dead for years. I'm looking forward to seeing the pictures released by the CIA photoshop experts.

Is there a US presidential election coming up next year?

 

[stender]

I was watching sky news and they were interviewing an ex cia man who had been working on the tracking for years. I couldn't believe when he said They had located him on 10 seperate occassions but then president Bill Clinton chose not to act each time.

 

[BREWSTERS]

I was watching sky news and they were interviewing an ex cia man who had been working on the tracking for years. I couldn't believe when he said They had located him on 10 seperate occassions but then president Bill Clinton chose not to act each time.

When Bill Clinton was president he wasn't a wanted man. He (OBL) used to work for the Americans against the Russian invasion of Afghanistan. The CIA created Al Qaeda. OBL was their patsy - killed off prior to 9-11 so there is no way he could spill the beans.

 

[jasman]

He was wanted during the end of Clinton's term for bombing US embassies in '98 in Kenya according to the FBI top 10 most wanted website.

http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten

Interestingly enough there is no mention of Bin Laden being wanted in connection with 911 on that page. I guess the FBI don't believe the Bush administration's bullshit either.

 

[fresh79]

OBL was killed 7 years ago, If the 40+ videos since then are anything to go by.
OBL was know to be left handed, a few videos feature him writing with the right hand, He was know to have a grey beard - in the last 7 years he must be getting a good supply of "just for men" in the Afghan mountains, He looks to have also changed his nose structure too over the last 7 years, so either he died a while ago or he has been enjoying a lifestyle of hair dye and plastic surgery

Dont forget that a bunch of OBL videos helped bush get his second term by scaremongering the US voters into red/amber/green terrorism fear

 

[FagEnd]

Conspiracy theories abound...

He is still alive. He shaved his beard off, washed his pits, sold his corner shop in Birmingham and ran for US president. Surely it's obvious to everyone that's why the US want to confirm his death for the 2nd time. He is alive and well in Washington.

 

[jasman]

Why do people always have to chip in with some comment about "conspiracy theories" and then turn the whole thing into some ludicrous joke? Look at the $billions various oil and weopons companies are making from the wars (and one of them is even managing the UK census now). Look at who funds presidential campaigns. Look at the gigantic transfer of wealth to the banks. Look at the various people in key positions who get bumped off. Of course there are conspiracies in the world, and you don't need to start cooking up theories, the accepted facts speak for themselves.

Instead of turning it all into a piss take so you can try and get a laugh from a few people, why not focus on the facts that people are highlighting to you. You might learn something.

As it happens, fresh79 is correct. The first Osama had a grey beard, the later Osama had a black beard and has different facial features. A little odd don't you think?

And didn't you know that on 9/11 three skyscrapers collapsed in New York? One, known as Building 7, was not hit by a plane, and yet collapsed in freefall speed just like the Twin Towers. What an extraordinary coincidence, now just how did that happen?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ujWitEr-Ww

And quel surprise, the collapse of Building 7 was not included in the 911 Commission's remit either.

 

[WigWam]

Conspiracy theories abound...

He is still alive. He shaved his beard off, washed his pits, sold his corner shop in Birmingham and ran for US president. Surely it's obvious to everyone that's why the US want to confirm his death for the 2nd time. He is alive and well in Washington.

 

[FagEnd]

Why do people always have to chip in with some comment about "conspiracy theories" and then turn the whole thing into some ludicrous joke? Look at the $billions various oil and weopons companies are making from the wars (and one of them is even managing the UK census now). Look at who funds presidential campaigns. Look at the gigantic transfer of wealth to the banks. Look at the various people in key positions who get bumped off. Of course there are conspiracies in the world, and you don't need to start cooking up theories, the accepted facts speak for themselves.

Instead of turning it all into a piss take so you can try and get a laugh from a few people, why not focus on the facts that people are highlighting to you. You might learn something.

As it happens, fresh79 is correct. The first Osama had a grey beard, the later Osama had a black beard and has different facial features. A little odd don't you think?

And didn't you know that on 9/11 three skyscrapers collapsed in New York? One, known as Building 7, was not hit by a plane, and yet collapsed in freefall speed just like the Twin Towers. What an extraordinary coincidence, now just how did that happen?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ujWitEr-Ww

And quel surprise, the collapse of Building 7 was not included in the 911 Commission's remit either.

Whoa, chill out dude, you might have a stroke with that level of stress.

 

[mat]

Its more odd to think that anyone trying to replace Bin Laden would forget what colour his beard is. Muslim men do dye their beards using henna and I don’t see why he wouldn’t. He’s a millionaire, I’m sure he goes and gets manicures done as well while he’s at it.

The problem with the majority of conspiracy theories is that if governments really were trying to pull the wool over our eyes, they really wouldn’t leave such obvious and easy to spot clues...

Think how much the American Government would have riding on their conspiracies. With their budget and tech they could probably clone an exact lookalike down to every last hair and scar, not pick a random off the street who looks a bit like him and hope knowone notices

 

[jasman]

To be honest, I'm wouldn't say I'm stressed, and I don't mean to have a go at you Fagend, but a lot of people seem to have an automatic response when they hear a conspiracy and without looking at the facts being presented just brand it a "conspiracy theory" and then treat it as a big joke. Sure, it's easier to take the piss out of something than pay attention to it and look deeper at it, but the real conspirators in this world must be laughing their heads off at this type of response as it makes things so much easier for them.

So would anyone who believes the official 9/11 story like to furnish an explanation for the collapse of Building 7?

 

[doodlebug]

Very good points Mat,I do wonder why they would make obvious mistakes ?

That said the UK and US governments do talk sh*t and cover things up though.

 

[afx]

you do know it's an al jazeera interview don't you? lol

So it's an Al Jazeera interview -- And ??? I haven't even followed this link but I'll take their word over the BBC's any day of the week covering international news -- granted this one is close to home and potential for bias is always going to be there on this topic (but it's by no means guaranteed).

The BBC, Faux News, Sky news or Aljazeera -- I know where my money would be for some presentation of the facts, interpretation of events and subsequent objective reporting. The BBC are the biggest jokers -- takes some doing beating faux news but they manage it.

 

[FagEnd]

hee hee, that's brilliant, just confirms my theory

 

[mat]

Jasman, im all for conspiracy theories and ill be the first to accept that alot goes on behind the scenes, but the whole 9/11 thing is getting really old now.

It is an insult to all the people who died and their families to keep banging on about how their own government did it, especially when all your evidence is based on documentries and internet findings.

The real conspiracy is the conspiracy documentries and sites aimed at making money from people like you who watch them religiously and keep coming back for more. They are the ones laughing!!

 

[disruptive]

So would anyone who believes the official 9/11 story like to furnish an explanation for the collapse of Building 7?

...the vibration and detritus of the surrounding buildings which weakened considerably the foundations. Do you know how many stories below ground those towers went to? Lets just say, massive double digit depths. Oh and *No* bomb was detonated inside each tower to coincide with the planes. There is no scientist who has ever considered the collapse as anything other than because of the two planes impacting the towers.

 

[FagEnd]

So it's an Al Jazeera interview -- And ??? I haven't even followed this link but I'll take their word over the BBC's any day of the week covering international news -- granted this one is close to home and potential for bias is always going to be there on this topic (but it's by no means guaranteed).

The BBC, Faux News, Sky news or Aljazeera -- I know where my money would be for some presentation of the facts, interpretation of events and subsequent objective reporting. The BBC are the biggest jokers -- takes some doing beating faux news but they manage it.

Here here, round of applause (and all other kinds of noises that grown men acting as MP's make) for afx.
I wouldn't trust BBC reporting as far as I could spit. I despise the BBC.
I was contacted by a BBC reporter regarding my site www.LegaliseCannabis.co.uk asking for my opinion on a subject. My opinion didn't happen to be in accordance with popular BBC opinion so said reporter didn't even reply to me. I received an unsolicited email from her, and I took the time to give a detailed response, which was ignored.
If anyone wants the direct email address of a BBC online reporter I'll be happy to provide it via PM. Let's waste some of her feckin time

 

[FagEnd]

Changed my mind you don't need to PM me for the email address.

It's [email protected]

Fire away

 

[jasman]

Jasman, im all for conspiracy theories and ill be the first to accept that alot goes on behind the scenes, but the whole 9/11 thing is getting really old now.

It is an insult to all the people who died and their families to keep banging on about how their own government did it, especially when all your evidence is based on documentries and internet findings.

Perhaps the whole 9/11 thing is getting old, but there are millions of people who do not believe the official story and much evidence has been witheld. Because of the magnitude of what happened and its implications which are still affecting us now, they want answers and an independent investigation.

It's not an insult to all the people who died... What about the many people whose family members died on that day who are not satisfied with the official explanation and have questions that their government has not had the courtesy to answer? They have a right to keep asking and a right to see satisfactory evidence. So does anyone who doesn't believe the official story as it was the pretext for wars and for taking people's rights away under terrorism legislation.

The real conspiracy is the conspiracy documentries and sites aimed at making money from people like you who watch them religiously and keep coming back for more. They are the ones laughing!!

No. The main conspiracy documentaries i.e. Zeitgeist, Loose Change, Zero Investigation etc were released free of charge over the Internet so that they could point out the holes in the official story to the maximum amount of people. They were not made to make money and didn't make money. People who believe strongly in something collaborated to do something about it. And no they are not laughing. Some of the people who contributed to the documentaries lost family members on 9/11, so to say they are laughing would be really disingenuous.

...the vibration and detritus of the surrounding buildings which weakened considerably the foundations. Do you know how many stories below ground those towers went to? Lets just say, massive double digit depths. Oh and *No* bomb was detonated inside each tower to coincide with the planes.

Building 7 was 300ft away from the nearest tower and was behind another building. A small amount of debris hit it when the towers collapsed but nearly all the windows in that wall (the one facing the towers) were still intact. So if most of the windows didn't even break I don't see how the steel and concrete core would become so weak it would collapse in free fall speed.

http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/attack/wtc7.html

Then the 47 storey building collapses in 7 seconds flat. If you think that's possible without a helping hand then fair enough, you're entitled to your view.

There is no scientist who has ever considered the collapse as anything other than because of the two planes impacting the towers.

No, that's not true at all. If you haven't checked, then don't make assertions like that. For a start about 1500 architects and engineers have disputed the official story on http://www.ae911truth.org/

In the main 9/11 documentaries including those mentioned above, a number of scientists are interviewed who claim the planes didn't cause the collapse. I guess you haven't watched any of them. That's up to you, but you can't claim you know that scientists haven't disputed the official story.

The we have the Daily Mail article about 75 top professors and leading scientists who don't buy the offical story:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-403757/Fury-academics-claim-9-11-inside-job.html

There are many other websites where large groups of scientists and professionals have come forward to dispute the official story. Here are a few more:

http://physics911.ca/members/
http://www.scientistsfor911truth.org/
http://911scholars.org/