One person catching a lot...

[AssetDomains]

Why does it HAVE to be a bug?

We cant say for sure it is but given the there is supposedly 50+ tags chasing the premium domains. Statistically it wouldn't mater how fast your code/server was the odds that none of these tags wouldn't get a request in whilst your paused to stay within 1000 request a minute for this amount of domains would be astronomical.

 

[grantw]

We cant say for sure it is but given the there is supposedly 50+ tags chasing the premium domains. Statistically it wouldn't mater how fast your code/server was the odds that none of these tags wouldn't get a request in whilst your paused to stay within 1000 request a minute for this amount of domains would be astronomical.

The above suggests enough research has definitely not been done.

Bug or feature or clever coding, I totally don't understand why anyone would want to complain rather than try and find it and take advantage of it for themselves? Unless dropcatching has turned into some sort of love-in where we're all equal....man

Grant

 

[RobM]

I would imagine 50 tags chasing premium domains is a massive underestimate.

 

[AssetDomains]

I would imagine 50 tags chasing premium domains is a massive underestimate.

Given that then the odd's someone could go on such a run would only get larger.

As to why not try and work it out for yourself its about having the time to do the research.

I just took it that no mater how fast your connection/server was the maximum queries I could send is 16.6 a second leaving a massive gaping hole were another tag could come in and get their request first

 

[Skinner]

I just took it that no mater how fast your connection/server was the maximum queries I could send is 16.6 a second leaving a massive gaping hole were another tag could come in and get their request first

Not stating this is the cause but worth mentioning.

Don't forget about delay quota, domainmonster with host europes quota could run at about 41x a second 24/7 without a problem.

If they had a strategy they could run at around 125x a second for 8 hours, or any variable there of, I believe with some creative coding using a "burst mode" with pauses, they could reach even higher in 5 seconds bursts.

I believe (untested) its also possible for us mere real timers to exceed the 16.6x limit with a burst mode too.

 

[tifosi]

Well another Boltonian has just nabbed jkd. Never heard of them before and they're nowt to do with me! :/

S

 

[Skinner]

The Goone Tag is a some sort of catching service, the registrant names change alot, I've seen about 5-6 different reg names.

 

[Retired_Member42]

It does seem a bit odd. Not accusing Denys of anything, fair play to him. But given how much of a lottery drop catching is with 100+ tags going after these premiums / 3L's etc it does seem strange that one person is consistently catching. Given the drop times it's running at all times of the day unless he's bursting and getting lucky. That's only 5 queries every second up against 100+ catchers, some who'll be running the full 16 a second etc. Who knows, I'd love to find out! You could live with losing out when it was someone unique but it's a bit demoralising seeing someone catch everything in this day and age with everyone running fast scripts.

 

[stellar73]

That's only 5 queries every second up against 100+ catchers, some who'll be running the full 16 a second etc.

Excuse my ignorance here...I know nothing about the technical side of catching but am interested...

Why would some catchers be running 5 queries a second and others 16 queries a second? Are there polling differences in what is allowed by Nominet to different entities (ie depending on whether large company/ individual etc)?

You implied Denys would be on 5 so if this is the case then it presumably makes his achievement even more astonishing?

 

[Edwin]

You can use up your daily polling quota in various ways
- spread evenly throughout the day
- in bursts with slowdowns (or even no polling at all) in between
- a few hours a day
- an hour or so a day
- etc

Since you're starting with the same overall quota, any approach that increases polling during a particular period makes it more likely you'll beat those sharing their own quotas out equally throughout the day - but you may have little or no chance the rest of the day.

It's like people playing the lottery - one person buys a ticket a week, the other 52 tickets one week and none the rest of the year. Both should have the same overall chance of winning, but the person with 52 tickets is much more likely to win that week than the person with one.

Note: the above is a simplified version, since there also various polling restrictions you shouldn't break, but it gives you the idea.

 

[DaveLeeds]

Does anyone have the time IMD dropped last night?

 

[js1]

Does anyone have the time IMD dropped last night?

Dropped around 22:03:12.2984561:

Full credit to Denys for having a good run, looks like years and years of hard work tweaking code really is worth.

I gave up after 12 months :lol: not tweaked my code in well over a year been to lazy / not put the time and effort in - Denys has and good luck to him.

 

[PoshTiger]

It does impact some of the commercial catch providers though...

If one tag is catching all the premium domains, it will make catching not commercially viable for anyone else.

I do think it's a bug - the odds of a single tag catching nearly all the premium domains in a week is huge.

Give it week and it'll be back to normal when the loophole is closed.

 

[philiporchard]

I'm not a catcher so interested to hear all the domains he's caught, if people think that he wont mind...

 

[Rob_F]

I'm not a catcher so interested to hear all the domains he's caught, if people think that he wont mind...

Since 13th Sept. Add .co.uk after each.

imd
lochlomond
flamingo
edenhouse
railway
nfd
tradepoint
fireside
chesham
cgt
litchfield
bdh
designerlighting

- Rob

 

[philiporchard]

Nice one Denys...

Some geos in there too!

 

[bulkcorn]

There ain't no bug!

 

[tifosi]

I guess one person's "intrinsic accuracy" is another man's bug.

Quite obviously the random seed generator used by Nominet ain't all that random!

 

[Bailey]

Since 13th Sept. Add .co.uk after each.

imd
lochlomond
flamingo
edenhouse
railway
nfd
tradepoint
fireside
chesham
cgt
litchfield
bdh
designerlighting

- Rob

Hardly seems a LOT of catches over a period of a month. And I have to add, while the domains are nice they are certainly nothing Special imo. When I imagine the effort and cost that goes into 'Script, dac access, Searching and the time assigned I'm not sure the drop catching is the way to go anymore anyway. (not that I have ever done it)

 

[PoshTiger]

It's all relative..

They were pretty much all the best domains for that month..