Need a Catch Script?

[doodlebug]

I'm looking towards catching myself and there's no reason why I couldn't try to catch myself and book with other catchers, at £15 per month it wouldn't be bank breaking.

Thanks for your offers Caz, I hope you get some half decent domains

 

[Retired_member41]

I never said it would be able to take on the top catchers, but as an alternative to spending £40 a time on domain monster and others, for £15 a month or if you had a membership and no script, this beats it by a mile.

After all it has done pretty well up to now using hosting that costs a couple of £ a month.

So with the new server I agree with you, it should do much better.

So you heard it here, as said by Monaghan an experienced domainer, the script I currently use on shared hosting costing buttons, will for the service be based on a brand new 8 core 32gb ram server, so should be much faster.

And just for anone a bit short who buys the script, you can have your own hosting if you wish for a couple of £'s a month while you build up your portfolio.

Thank you to all the messages of support, and infact the poor messages, every single one, makes me more and more committed

PS

Ive heard that for years and years, people have been spouting about how hard it is to get a good script, but I agree with Monaghan also, a script isn't actually that big.

But as an invitation, to azooza I think who said it couldnt catch owt, why dont we put our scripts against each other.

Yours costs £15,000 according to your website, and this one just £200, ok yours may have more features, but for a purely catching competition, lets put them up against each other.

They both poll at the max rate, so lets choose some domains, set them to poll the same hours, and lets see over a week which script catches the most.

We would have to get someone independent and trustworhy, to host the scripts at the same place of course, but should show if the one that costs £14,800 less is worthy.

Nothing like a good David Versus Goliath contest is there.

 

[aZooZa]

I wish you all the best - no sour grapes from me. I have no idea why you think you need an 8-core CPU and 32GB of RAM. Catching names isn't about CPU and memory of that magnitude even if you have loads of clients.

 

[ukdomains]

I thinks (david would be domainlore) golith can be anyone dropsystem is good but no good enough denny wins more than anyone

 

[Retired_member41]

Hi azooza,

I know there are no sour grapes, and in fairness I think you knew my offer was a bluff call where one was not needed.

All I am saying is, and this thread is far too long now.

That there is a need for domainers who have no script and those wanting an easier more cost effective access point to catch domains.

It was domain monster and their terms, which I am amazed nominet allow, that made me decide a wider audience needs to catch, before all registrars adopt this and there are none for anyone.

And the business model a few had a go at, is solid, ok it may not make much if anything but solid none the less.

The more business estute out there, will probably agree that more people coming into catching and the idea of catching will only help the public catchers and not take any business away.

After all, most of use prefer someone else to do it rather than ourselves, so by being drawn into catching, people will use public catchers more.

I bet you in 3 or 4 months time, public catchers will have more customers than ever.

And yes I agree, you dont need the server power I mention, but its something people who work online are familiar with, and identify with.

Better to paint a service sat in a Porsche than a Proton.

No offence to proton drivers

 

[philipp]

It's interesting and amusing to read the defensive reactions of some of the current catchers.

Go for it, Caz. The more business models and competing parties in this game the better. I'm sure your clients will be able to work out where they need to enhance their resources to nab some good names.

I wish you the best of luck with it.

Cheers,

P.

P.S. It's also quite telling to see the unsolicited analyses of your business model! Especially when several of their authors would be quick to call 'sales thread' elsewhere :mrgreen:

 

[monaghan]

I think you misunderstand, it's the speed of response to Nominet that is important, not the CPU speed, in fact an 8 core is serious overkill and waste of funds just for catching. My modest system spends most of the time in delay loops so as not to break the DAC limits.

Getting a DAC reply of "domain.co.uk,N" is easy, getting the EPP Create over the line first on a popular name is the difficult bit.

All the best with your catching, I just don't understand your business model of selling something far below the market value with no chance to upsell. If you are serious about the 8 core server, then I really fail to see how you will break even, but that's your issue not ours

 

[Retired_member41]

I agree its not needed, but I had the opportunity to get it so i did at the location needed.

Having read a lot of posts about catching I saw a few of the concerns people have, one being the server, another the location and security.

So I made sure I covered all bases.

I still stand by what I said about the UK domain market getting bigger over the next 24 months, and catchers will do more business than ever I bet.

With the possibly millions of very IT literate people who will be out of the workplace due to the new government coming to power, they will eventually after crawling across rough ground, find the UK online stream, and not only need uk domains, but more importantly have the starter cash to buy decent domains, which can only be good for everyone.

Maybe Geo service names will soar?

 

[doodlebug]

I think it's good to have competition, if Caz fails to deliver the goodies then it's not cost a fortune for anyone to find out, In November I will have the money for my own tag and upto now I have been offered DAC access for £35 per month but £15 is better.

I won't kill me to try and I can still have 1000 domains booked with DM

 

[monaghan]

I still stand by what I said about the UK domain market getting bigger over the next 24 months, and catchers will do more business than ever I bet.

With the possibly millions of very IT literate people who will be out of the workplace due to the new government coming to power, they will eventually after crawling across rough ground, find the UK online stream, and not only need uk domains, but more importantly have the starter cash to buy decent domains, which can only be good for everyone.

1 concern (not just this service, but all catch systems), will increased capacity and increased awareness of catch systems lead to more cybersquatting bringing us all into the spotlight once again?

Should we be looking at safeguards within the community to crack down abuse of TM's?

 

[doodlebug]

1 concern (not just this service, but all catch systems), will increased capacity and increased awareness of catch systems lead to more cybersquatting bringing us all into the spotlight once again?

Should we be looking at safeguards within the community to crack down abuse of TM's?

Halleluja, some light coming through, I seriuosly think that we as a community should come down heavy on TM domains, at least the blatant ones such as cheapipads etc

I've shut up about my views on TMs but as you mention them then I personally think users deserve red rep for posting them.

I can't believe established business people deal in TMs, like I said before, there is enough money in generics :|

 

[stender]

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[philipp]

Halleluja, some light coming through, I seriuosly think that we as a community should come down heavy on TM domains

There is no community nor industry, it's really just a bunch of chancers

I'm sure the DRS will continue doing its thing just fine with respect to trademark domains.

Cheers,

P.

 

[mat]

It is not strictly true that this idea wont make Caz and Co any money. Infact the way I see it the £15 a month script use is just a good way of tempting people to go ahead and make the £200 purchase for the script. If people do catch average/nice names and see the script working why would they not pay £200 for the script when thats pretty much a years rent for it.

A simple search of Google shows the amount of domainers/newbies looking for a budget catching script, most would happily make the £200 purchase just for a backbone one they can try and work on, let alone one that actualy does a half decent job.

If 100 people go on to buy this script a year then thats £20k for selling a bog standard type script which could allow the buyer to catch "public catcher" type names and save £30-£40 a time. You get 5 catches at domainmonster for that kind of money.

 

[philipp]

I see it as a healthy thing. At present the majority of top names go to a couple of people, so by selling our systems to others they could take advantage of existing optimization work, and have a good platform to add their own ideas and come up with a way of replacing the top catchers.

That would be a truly community-minded approach ;-)

P.

 

[stender]

I've grown bored of catching in recent months and can see me giving up completely soon. If I do I may well post my script up for free! That'll teach everyone for being so secretive and unhelpful when I was trying to make one!

p.s. As for kit, I've caught LLL's on my script running on windows on a 1gig ram vps located in a m8's garage using his bulldog broadand connection. So theres hope for everyone!

 

[WigWam]

I've grown bored of catching in recent months and can see me giving up completely soon. If I do I may well post my script up for free! That'll teach everyone for being so secretive and unhelpful when I was trying to make one!

p.s. As for kit, I've caught LLL's on my script running on windows on a 1gig ram vps located in a m8's garage using his bulldog broadand connection. So theres hope for everyone!

I don't have a script, hint hint hehe

WigWamalamahama

 

[Retired_member41]

Your friend should rent rack space in his garage Stender

And yeah I know what you mean about how hard it was to break into catching by getting a script. Meeting a genius developer helped us, and then a guy who owns a big hosting company who decided after helping me with lots of problems to give us his.

So ideas from both in a whole new script is where we got to, and its far from bog standard.

Some great posts in this thread though, and I agree Phillip, its good to share information, although there will probably just be a few blind alleys lol

 

[fish]

I've grown bored of catching in recent months and can see me giving up completely soon.

why is that then?

 

[stender]

I just can't be arsed trawling through lists or adding them to my app everyday. I should be concentrating on building quality sites. I have enough domains already sitting doing nothing, as do many of us.