Membership is FREE, giving all registered users unlimited access to every Acorn Domains feature, resource, and tool! Optional membership upgrades unlock exclusive benefits like profile signatures with links, banner placements, appearances in the weekly newsletter, and much more - customized to your membership level!

Is Bitcoin the Next Big Thing?

Really interested to know why you are so keen to "buy the dip" with crypto after it falls about 60% from record highs, but not with equities when the FTSE falls less than 10% from record highs.

This is where I don't understand the logic of crypto investors.

I mean... value investors would probably be considering the stock market in a bubble and waiting for the dip to get deeper before buying. That's when you buy.

The people to win from the financial crisis by the way where anybody holding cash.... they were buying up new builds at auction. Completed 2 bed apartments smack bang in the middle of Leeds city centre were going for £30k at auction, because the developers had gone under and nobody could get a mortgage. Those people with cash really found that "cash was king" at that time, and the equities were a bargain.

Go and look at how much those apartments are worth now.... £150k, £200k.
Firstly, what I choose to do with the money I've worked hard to earn is my business, not yours. I don't even know who you are, so therefore you do not know me!

Secondly, I choose to invest in Crypto because I believe it holds a strong future position in not just world economies, but most industries due to the underlying blockchain technology. I admit it is somewhat of a punt at this stage, but a punt I'm willing to take.

Thirdly, investing in Crypto is part of a diverse portfolio I have, and Crypto is a very small proportion of that. I'm not interested in buying, selling, or maintaining property, that just doesn't float my boat, so it isn't all about what is considered most profitable!

Perhaps I wasn't clear, but I've paid into my index funds via S&S ISA and SIPP monthly for a long period of time now. I've done so because I accept based upon fundamentals and historic data that markets will continue to rise long term, and compound interest/investment is key. My only debate was over whether or not I should consider holding back on investing within the indexes I've selected this month; the money itself is allocated to the ISA and SIPP regardless; it isn't being held back for use on Crypto. I can understand why you have been misled by this, but at the same time, feel you were deliberating trying to 'miss the point'.

In conclusion, from the start of this thread, you've been quick to jump down my throat based upon my own views of Crypto, and you've been even quicker to point out $20k was the time to sell, and that we should have bought properties in Leeds (did you?). I don't know what magic ball you have, but I'll give you 1 BTC for it. :p

I'll leave you to argue with yourself, but then you've resigned haven't you. ;)
 
Last edited:
Because I never wrote it :), it was ausername who called you a skint gamber and generally introduced personal insults to the debate

Oh! I totally read the post wrong, sorry

I read it "and @Admin. Saying Murray is a "skint gambler" without the full stop

Ignore me, sorry about that
 
Reading more about Tether, it occurs to me we will never know the true value of Bitcoin until Tether is proven to be a scam or not.

If Tether passes a reputable firm’s audit, then the BTC bounce is real. If it’s a scam on the other hand, then...?!
 
I've read some stuff that is pretty bizarre in the lengths they go to to attack this guy Bitfinex'd without actually touching on the central question.

Either they have several billion dollars of fiat in their bank accounts or they don't. I really can't believe it's that hard to find out.

Yes they need to be audited properly, but in the meantime all they need to do is get their bankers, or bankers' lawyers to issue a short statement saying 'We confirm they have $X billion in ringfenced client accounts'.
BTC would probably hit $25K the same day.
 
I agree that it should be easy. And that's why it makes it super-suspicious that they show extreme reluctance to provide proof.
 
BTW, I only half understand the concept, but it looks like anyone who's been holding Bitcoin for a while is entitled to quite a number of "forked" currencies for free, though it seems they may have to be manually claimed.
https://cryptoticker.io/list-upcoming-bitcoin-forks/
https://cryptocurrencyfacts.com/how-to-get-forked-coins-from-bitcoin-forks/
https://cointelegraph.com/news/forks-in-the-road-2017-bitcoin-forks

Altogether, the forks waaaaaay outpace ICO for new value creation. $44 billion in Q4, 2017 alone. So I suspect if you have a reasonable Bitcoin position, there's quite a bit of money sloshing around in all those different forks...
https://www.investopedia.com/news/bitcoin-forks-generated-44-billion-last-quarter-coindesk-report/
 
They do have information about proof of funds on their website. Haven’t really looked into it though.

https://tether.to/

Haven't read it, don't need to. Logic and reason trump any un-evidenced claim they make.
If anyone here believes they've really got all that money, it should be easy enough to take me up at 5-1.
 
BTW, I only half understand the concept, but it looks like anyone who's been holding Bitcoin for a while is entitled to quite a number of "forked" currencies for free, though it seems they may have to be manually claimed.
https://cryptoticker.io/list-upcoming-bitcoin-forks/
https://cryptocurrencyfacts.com/how-to-get-forked-coins-from-bitcoin-forks/
https://cointelegraph.com/news/forks-in-the-road-2017-bitcoin-forks

Altogether, the forks waaaaaay outpace ICO for new value creation. $44 billion in Q4, 2017 alone. So I suspect if you have a reasonable Bitcoin position, there's quite a bit of money sloshing around in all those different forks...
https://www.investopedia.com/news/bitcoin-forks-generated-44-billion-last-quarter-coindesk-report/

Yes but its complicated. Complicated and risky to extract the forks from BTC proper, eff it up and you could lose the original btc. I cashed in my Bitcoin cash months ago, waiting for Xapo to allow me to sell btc gold. The others have diminished so much not sure its worth the effort and risk.
 
tether seem to be saying they have the cash in the findings section after a quick scan
Screen Shot 2018-02-10 at 14.16.32.png


Seems highly unlikely in fact it does exactly match 1 to 1. No running costs? no interest accrued on funds in account ?
 
Last edited:
tether seem to be saying they have the cash in the findings section after a quick scanView attachment 1846

Then my 5-1 offer should be the easiest money you've ever made :)

I'll pay out the same day they prove they've held $1 in reserve against every Tether token issued as promised.

No takers yet. I've been wrong plenty of times before, especially about crypto, I can't believe no-one's tempted...
 
Then my 5-1 offer should be the easiest money you've ever made :)

I'll pay out the same day they prove they've held $1 in reserve against every Tether token issued as promised.

No takers yet. I've been wrong plenty of times before, especially about crypto, I can't believe no-one's tempted...

Do you accept tether ?:)
 
Seems highly unlikely in fact it does exactly match 1 to 1. No running costs? no interest accrued on funds in account ?

They can't pay running costs out of ringfenced accounts, the whole point of tether is that they hold the money in reserve against it. Or not...

Re interest, good point. so I'll change the terms from 1:1 to 'at least 1:1'.
Though if they had actually done what they've claimed it would make much more sense to have that interest paid into separate accounts.
 
Last edited:
Come on folks. I've got £3 billion in the bank to cover the bet.

What do you mean which bank, I can't tell you that, data protection. No you can't have a look.
It's there, ok? I am fully transparent and regularly audited. Some people are just so cynical

Actually 'fully transparent' isn't too far from the truth...

This is going to be very embarrassing if I'm wrong
 

The Rule #1

Do not insult any other member. Be polite and do business. Thank you!

Members online

Premium Members

New Threads

Our Mods' Businesses

*the exceptional businesses of our esteemed moderators
General chit-chat
Help Users
  • No one is chatting at the moment.
      There are no messages in the current room.
      Top Bottom