Interesting anti-BNP site

[dtm]

What are people here's views on the BNP gaining seats in the European Parliament?

Interesting site I just stumbled over:
Hope Not Hate | Nick Griffin: Not in my name

 

[rob]

BNP candidates: Andrew Brons is the first MEP that was elected

from the site:

"If the BNP wanted to distance itself from nazism, the last person it should have chosen as a candidate is Andrew Brons.

A man with a long nazi pedigree..."

Classy intro, and in his acceptance speech he said he teaches kids politics.

 

[SF]

vote BNP

 

[domainking]

Vote BNP

 

[domainking]

How to upset Rob Vote BNP

I must admit I did not know until Rob said every member of the BNP will be joining the next bash of the domainers meeting in Edinburgh.
with free drinks on Rob.

 

[SF]

lets do are own poll? labour conserv and BNP?

 

[rob]

It does upset me as it does you

BNP has a 'whites only' membership rule, they want to abolish same sex partnerships etc etc.

Its worth reading around ( British National Party - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia good start) as I know of a few people who have done a BNP 'protest' vote without knowing really what that meant.

Their views on the Gurkas sums it up for me British National Party - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .

"I am only going to represent the white people. I WILL NOT REPRESENT ASIANS. I will not do anything for them. They have no right to be in my great country." - Derek Beackon


"Very few people in Britain are aware of the huge influence over the mass media exercised by a certain ethnic minority, namely the Jews." - Nick Griffin



"Racial laws will be enacted FORBIDDING MARRIAGE between Britons and non-Aryans: medical measures will be taken to prevent procreation on the part of all those who have hereditary defects either racial, mental or physical." - John Tyndall (BNP Founder)

"Mein Kampf is my Bible." - John Tyndall

etc etc

It really is filth.

 

[stender]

Vote UKIP!

 

[Skinner]

I think this is a good thing, because this maybe the shot of adrenaline that the other parties need to sort their sorry act out.

I just hope its caught early, because if the othr parties don't act soon and sort their shit out this will be a roach motel situation.

 

[Nigel]

Voted UKIP as well

Made my day to see Marta Andreasen the former chief accountant of the EU (until she was sacked for whistleblowing on EU waste) win her seat as an MEP.

 

[boxerdog]

BNP!!!

should turn this thread into a poll

 

[domainking]

I voted for SNP not the BNP

 

[Morrissey]

Problem is with the BNP, apart from their racist policies, their economic policies are much like the Old Labour ones, so it appeals to the Labour voters now who are dissapointed with the way the party is going.

An armchair socialist who goes to LSE in London and was brought up in a middle class family voting labour, will not swap and vote for the BNP

A working class miner who has voted Labour all his life WILL change his vote and go for BNP.

I'm glad that fat prick Griffin got egged today, shame it wasn't bricks they threw at him.

 

[GreyWing]

They aren't white supremicists to be fair. They don't say white is right or better than any other race.

By the way they were against the war in Iraq, which resulted in the deaths of 500,000 people.

That means if they went on the streets of the UK and murdered 1000 a week, it would be nearly 10 years before they were as violent as this lot.

Just seen some anti facist nazi on Channel 4 telling people who they can and can't vote for.

Who are they to tell people who people can and can't vote for? You take people's voices away and that is where the trouble starts and these people get credibility as defenders of freedom.

Bizaare though that they got a big foothold in Barnsley where I live, there aren't any immigrants here. Even the asylum seekers go back to their warzone thinking it's better than here.

 

[rob]

They aren't white supremicists to be fair. They don't say white is right or better than any other race.

Have a watch of Nick Griffin having a friendly chat with the KKK YouTube - BNP MEP Nick Griffin + KKK Terrorist on how to get the message across.

"instead of racial purity we talk about identity"

As for not saying 'white is right' or better, to be a member of the BNP you need to be "Indigenous Caucasian". As earlier quoted, Nick Griffin made it clear on how he decides that.

YouTube - BNP leader on Obama is another good one, which Mr Griffin goes on about 'blacks' not being 'very clever' and the like.

Its all about branding and getting people to listen to the propaganda.

I was against the war in iraq, but I am also against the bunch of racists in the BNP. Having the odd thing in common does not mean much, I am sure Mr Hitler loved a cuppa etc

Incidently this is all 65 years on from having a tough time in Normandy against such people.

As Nick Griffin says himself, hes rebranding the message to something more paletable, but that does not mean they are any less abhorrent underneath it depends if you buy it or not. I dont.

EDIT: dont get me wrong, the great thing with democracy is people can vote for who they want. It does require some truthfulness on what people stand for though, and there is alot of people who do not understand what they are voting for out there.

 

[GreyWing]

I beleive Nick Griffin when he says that he isn't violent and doesn't condone it, however there is no doubt what lies beneath the surface of the BNP is some shocking characters.

There is no doubt that they are rebranding and starting to look credible. One of the problems is all the lies the media are telling about them. Things like the Ghurkas being kicked out was just false.

Now problem with this is that they tell that many lies, which means that when something does need reporting about what these guys are up to and pushing, nobody is going to believe it.

The boy that cried wolf an all that.

Fortunately or unfortunately democracy doesn't need people to understand what they are voting for mate, it merely requires the inteligence of a chimpanzee to put a cross on a piece of paper.

But the more politicians keep going on about how abhorent the BNP are the more people are going to vote for them. Perhaps they should think more about the saying "My enemies enemy is my friend" and they may start to approach it differently because people hate mainstream politicians at the moment.

People like the anti facists throwing eggs are also not doing the argument any favours.

 

[Skinner]

I still maintain we need to pay WHATEVER it takes to get Joe Apaio (sp?) to run our prison system, and swap out Brown Stain, I mean Gordon for the Australian PM and we'd have a pretty good thing going.

 

[rob]

One of the problems is all the lies the media are telling about them. Things like the Ghurkas being kicked out was just false.

Not sure I would agree with that one - Regarding the Gurkhas there is video floating around of Nick Griffin's answer to a direct question on this and he says:

Chair: What is the BNP's position on the current Gurkha row?
Griffin: Our policy position is the country is full no more immigrants...

He went on (watch the whole vid below for more gems)

"The whole point of having paid outsiders in your armed forces is that its a cheaper way of doing it. If in the end we have to further overcrowd our country with all their relatives then its not going to be a good thing"

LiveLeak.com - BNP Gurkha Shirker blame the burkah has a copy (but with some bloke giving his view alongside) its worth a watch.

They also have a crack at Joanna Lumley for property development and making money, nothing like trying to discredit people in totally unrelated ways.

The BNP claimed that the above didnt happen and said it was lies and as the issues has never been raised (!) they dont have a policy on it.

That is simply not the case, Griffin when asked the above *directly* answered with their 'the country is full' policy. Policy specific.

The BNP denial is clever - BNP Gurkhas : The British National Party - it denies a leaflet being printed and Griffin himself says As to the BNP’s position on the Gurkhas, you will be interested to know that the party has never before even debated this issue, and thus there is no official position on the topic.

No 'official' position, but to me the views of the leader are pretty clear...

 

[rob]

That did crack me up!

 

[pendragon]

Time to bring back the Anti Nazi League