Deleting domains

[netserve]

1) Welcome home Rob.

2) I'm slightly vague on the Nominet rules as I haven't looked at them in detail for some time, but from memory, something along the lines of 20% of domains registered in a month can be deleted.

If a catcher deletes 19.9% of his domains in a month then he's conforming with Nominets rules. It may not be in the spirit of the law but it is conforming to the Nominets rules.

Am I right or is there something else within Nominet rules that I've missed?

 

[netserve]

I'll just pick up the dregs, (20 a day?) pop them straight on Sedo and see what clicks I get in the next 25 days before handing over half of them back.

1) Rules say you can delete 20% of your registrations in a month. How many businesses would you expect to delete 20% of their new orders in a month? This rule can only give scope to the try before you buy registrars and given that we put through a lot of customer registrations every month I could have a field day if I wanted and still be well within the 20% rule.

2) If you think .uk is bad.... 80% of .com domains registered each day are no longer registered by the same registrar/owner 6 days later due to the 'try before you buy' registrars that are buying domains and parking them for 5 days before claiming their refunds from verisign.

 

[retired_member11]

1) Rules say you can delete 20% of your registrations in a month. How many businesses would you expect to delete 20% of their new orders in a month? This rule can only give scope to the try before you buy registrars and given that we put through a lot of customer registrations every month I could have a field day if I wanted and still be well within the 20% rule.

2) If you think .uk is bad.... 80% of .com domains registered each day are no longer registered by the same registrar/owner 6 days later due to the 'try before you buy' registrars that are buying domains and parking them for 5 days before claiming their refunds from verisign.

Where is this clause in the rules?

 

[stender]

I'm probably going to regret entering this foray but here goes......

I am a relative newb to domaining and am not a tag holder so here's my pennorth from a newbs point of view.

I'm not sure I get this right but are we saying some people bulk register large quantities of domains that drop, then sift through what they want and cancel the rest?
If so I don't think that's cricket old sport!
If they reg a 100 dropped domains today then sift through over a week and cancel a large amount then that's unfair in my opinion. Obviously tag holders catch via scripts and pay nominet for the priviledge to poll their servers which is fine, but bottomdwellers like myself should stand a chance at picking up the odd decent domain. We have to check for ovt etc... there and then when a domain appears. We don't have the luxury taking a week to make our minds up!

As for admin deleting threads: I'd do the same in his situation. If you start slandering or is it defaming? then he is going to suffer the wrath of litigation.

And it's his site anyway so there! :-D

 

[netserve]

Where is this clause in the rules?

http://www.nominet.org.uk/tag/fees/

"Cancelling domain name registrations
Tag holders can cancel registrations, if made in error or no longer required, provided that payment has not been made. However, in cases of excessive volumes of cancellations - more than 20% of monthly registrations - Nominet will require a written explanation from the tag holder."

So where in the Nominet rules does it say you can't register a load of domain names, use them for the month and then delete them the day before you get billed? Providing you're within the 20% rule then there's nothing to stop it happening.

Nominet may not have intended to allow the practice but there are no rules which stop it.

 

[texidriver]

Its sad to see how a forum which only has 1500 odd members could be full of so much hate.

Your 1st post....

"get a life you lot .. most of you couldn't catch a cold. So either get up off your arses and compete with the top catchers or f**k off and get a life."

 

[stender]

oooooh! get you!

 

[netserve]

Handbags at dawn

 

[texidriver]

..
Well what if I register a domain you want, keep it, but never actually use it?...is this also "not fair"?

Let's ask the Nominet expert...

Under paragraph 3 a i B, it may be evidence of Abusive Registration if circumstances indicate that the Respondent registered the Domain Name primarily as a blocking registration against a name or mark in which the Complainant has Rights. As the Respondent has not responded to the Complaint, we do not know why he chose to register the name “XXXX”, which is distinctive. It appears that the Respondent has not used the Domain Name for the purposes of e-mail or a web-site. Whilst this is not, in itself, conclusive evidence of Abusive Registration, it does cast doubts on the Respondent’s motives.

 

[retired member 1]

Let's ask the Nominet expert...

Under paragraph 3 a i B, it may be evidence of Abusive Registration if circumstances indicate that the Respondent registered the Domain Name primarily as a blocking registration against a name or mark in which the Complainant has Rights. As the Respondent has not responded to the Complaint, we do not know why he chose to register the name “XXXX”, which is distinctive. It appears that the Respondent has not used the Domain Name for the purposes of e-mail or a web-site. Whilst this is not, in itself, conclusive evidence of Abusive Registration, it does cast doubts on the Respondent’s motives.

In a DRS case for a generic, non trademarked name where the complainant has no prior rights whatsoever all it would take is a response stating "it was registered for future development" to completely wipe out any of that.

There is even a case of it was registered to be resold for a bloody large profit, but that sails closer to the wind I suppose, even though technically there is nothing wrong with reselling domains for a bloody large profit.

 

[bb99]

even though technically there is nothing wrong with reselling domains for a bloody large profit.

Here here!

 

[jalpope]

Your 1st post....

"get a life you lot .. most of you couldn't catch a cold. So either get up off your arses and compete with the top catchers or f**k off and get a life."

Texidriver, perhaps my second post would have been more appropriate in your case.

 

[texidriver]

Texidriver, perhaps my second post

"The word c*ck comes to mind ..""

would have been more appropriate in your case.

Don't bend over !