Deleting domains

[retired_member16]

So, its been proved that domains are caught, checked and dropped on a regular basis (before the thread was pulled )

The question is

a) will Nominet now admit that it happens?
b) apologise to Nominet customers for missing this issue before this board again highlighted it?
c) take steps -today- to ensure that it stops?

 

[FC Domains]

Did I miss something late last night?

Members of Nominet have emphatically stated on several occasions, on this board, that the practice of registering, filtering and deleting is not allowed. It would be a very simple task to automatically catch this.

What was posted was evidence that this is not being done, it wasn't a personal attack, it seemed to be aimed against Nominet.

Personally I think that 'pushing the boundaries' is fair and includes the occasional tactical post here. :-D

 

[jalpope]

So, its been proved ....

It looks like you and some others on this forum could benefit from this link:

http://dir.yahoo.com/Recreation/Hobbies/


I know you are going to comeback with 'I was doing it for the whole of the UK community'. The attitude of alot of members is do as I say, not as I do. Its sad to see how a forum which only has 1500 odd members could be full of so much hate.

 

[retired_member16]

jalpope - most of your posts appear to be full of spite and rather aggressive. Therefore most will ignore your comments.

The issue is with Nominet and their failure to police their own rules, nothing more. If you have someone constructive to add, feel free. If not, move along.

 

[retired_member27]

Admin, can you state clearly why you thought the thread had to be deleted, from what I could see it only pointed out certain people who broke Nominets rules and why.

What is the point of a forum if you're going to delete a thread that is the slightest bit controversial?

 

[Admin]

It is not hate, it is wanting to see that Nominet imposes its own rules on everyone so that the playing field is a level one.

 

[Admin]

Admin, can you state clearly why you thought the thread had to be deleted, from what I could see it only pointed out certain people who broke Nominets rules and why.

What is the point of a forum if you're going to delete a thread that is the slightest bit controversial?

Because it named names, a Company name in particular.

I have been over and over this before, and critisised before, but at the end of the day, I dont want to have to hire a lawyer to run this forum, let's have the discussions, let's push Nominet or whoever on the issues, but if you want to point fingers at specific individuals or Companies then please do it directly with Nominet and not here.

 

[retired member 1]

Sorry to go against the grain on this one, but I don't see what moaning about this achieves at all?

It's just a process of letting tag holders correct mistakes, fair enough some people could be perceived to take advantage of this, but why should it be up to you to pull other people up on this? - This is Nominets job

Why does this effect you as a Nominet member & TAG Holder?, as far as I can see this shouldn't effect you at all...just seems to be winging for the sake of it.

I've nothing against anyone on this board on a personal level, i'm sure you are all decent enough people but at times I get the impression all we do is complain about x & y and why Nominet aren't doing this and that properly (I know I have done in the past also).

 

[Admin]

Sorry to go against the grain on this one, but I don't see what moaning about this achieves at all?

It's just a process of letting tag holders correct mistakes, fair enough some people could be perceived to take advantage of this, but why should it be up to you to pull other people up on this? - This is Nominets job

Why does this effect you as a Nominet member & TAG Holder?, as far as I can see this shouldn't effect you at all...just seems to be winging for the sake of it.

I've nothing against anyone on this board on a personal level, i'm sure you are all decent enough people but at times I get the impression all we do is complain about x & y and why Nominet aren't doing this and that properly (I know I have done in the past also).

Exactly J2, this is Nominet's job.

I dont see the harm in us pointing out to them where we see things that they appear to be missing (or denying in some people's view).

All I ask is that it is done without accusing specific TAG holders in public.

 

[grantw]

as far as I can see this shouldn't effect you at all...just seems to be winging for the sake of it.

I also do not understand why everyone is complaining about this, how exactly is this catching/deleting technique affecting your life? From my (selfish) point of view if one or more catchers want to hoover up huge loads of domains on a daily basis thats fine with me as it means they are concentrating less effort on the domains that I am after. It doesn't bother me what they do with them afterwards either, thats for Nominet to worry about.

As I said in the deleted thread, I suspect that the person in question may have caught a few domains that other people wanted and they are now hitting back under this 'Nominet Police - we're all for the community' guise.

Grant

 

[retired_member16]

If Nominet dont clamp down on a minor infringement where will it stop?

The fact that they are so weak at imposing their own rules makes me worry what else they are missing and makes their management a mockery to the outsider.

 

[grantw]

a minor infringement

.....by one person. Pretty much says it all! I am still intrigued as to your real reason for restarting this topic. Are you even a Nominet member?

Grant

 

[retired_member16]

.....by one person. Pretty much says it all! I am still intrigued as to your real reason for restarting this topic. Are you even a Nominet member?

Grant

What difference would that make? Im a customer of Nominets and I expect them to live by the sword.

 

[grantw]

What difference would that make? Im a customer of Nominets and I expect them to live by the sword.

For a non member / non employee of Nominet you seem to be very passionate about how their management is perceived by the outsider, just seems a bit strange to me? As an indirect customer of Nominet (I assume you register domains through an ISP or whatever rather than directly with them) how has this catching/deleting technique affected you personally??

Grant

 

[retired_member16]

I currently manage 70000 domains/zonefiles on behalf of our customers, so with regards to Nominet, Im interested to know their failings.

Are you not bothered that you pay fees to an organisation that lets slip on rules which it publicaly states are not being infringed?

 

[retired member 1]

I currently manage 70000 domains/zonefiles on behalf of our customers, so with regards to Nominet, Im interested to know their failings.

Are you not bothered that you pay fees to an organisation that lets slip on rules which it publicaly states are not being infringed?

Tit for tat, the fact that domains are caught then deleted does not effect your customers or yourself.

I'll assume that some of these 70,000 domains are .com, so why not focus your efforts with ICANN/Verisign where this problem really does exist, we're not talking about a few domains a month, we're talking over 75% of registrations being deleted each and every month.

So with that in mind, no I don't believe Nominet have a problem. And being a member it does not concern me one bit.

If you still feel strongly about it I suggest talking to someone on the PAB.

 

[scooter]

Whats happened?

I come back from the dentist and find it's not only a tooth that's been pulled!

Admin: I think pulling the thread was wrong. If anything you should have pulled the post by me showing a particular TAG holders cancelled stats over a 2 day period. The thread was very relavant. It was showing Nominets failure to police what is happening on a daily basis.

This is not limited to one TAG holder. A quick 30 second look on deleting.co.uk and I can see at least one more. This is an important issue. They are the top end players and what they do affects us all and it should be highlighted for Nominet to see as they do come to this forum and they have stated it does not happen.

Would it be better if I took a whole weeks stats for all TAG holders who purchased within the seven days. Then there is no bias. Just strait forward full blown stats. Would you allow this to be posted?

 

[retired_member16]

For the record - they are all .uks.

.coms and the like are managed by my counterpart in the US

I am surprised by the filppancy shown to a breach of the rules. I guess I will take this up with Nominet directly.

 

[retired member 1]

what they do affects us all

And the question remains, why does this effect you?....I know it doesn't effect two of us so far so that rules out your "all" statement.

 

[scooter]

It looks like you and some others on this forum could benefit from this link:

http://dir.yahoo.com/Recreation/Hobbies/


I know you are going to comeback with 'I was doing it for the whole of the UK community'. The attitude of alot of members is do as I say, not as I do. Its sad to see how a forum which only has 1500 odd members could be full of so much hate.

The only hate I saw on the thread was from a certain TAG holder launching a personal attack on me and stating not to stir things. Which in turn exposed what is really happening on a daily basis.