2014 Board Election

[Edwin]

Yup. I think I have called domain name traders the Buy-to-Let Landlords of the Internet and suggested that I would support any obstacle put in their way. I'm not a big fan of Estate Agents either

Almost. What you said (emphasis mine) was:

'Domainers' are the 'Buy-to-Let Landlords' of the internet. If you don't understand the insult then you don't understand me.

From http://www.acorndomains.co.uk/uk-do...ns/121111-massive-thank-you-2.html#post469139

 

[anthony]

Almost. What you said (emphasis mine) was:



From http://www.acorndomains.co.uk/uk-do...ns/121111-massive-thank-you-2.html#post469139

..If you don't understand the insult then you don't understand me..

Lol, good find Edwin. As I said, she is unsuitable for the role!

 

[Hazel Pegg]

Yup. Those are my words. I stand by every one of them. If any of you can convince me that domainers add any value for the end user then please do go ahead?

 

[martin-s]

Hazel - I'm one of your fans generally, but my feeling is that the belief you hold about domain investors should effectively rule you out of being a NED.

NEDs are not supposed to hold such a strong bias - at least not without acknowledging it as a personal belief that should not affect their in-role behaviour.

 

[Retired_Member38]

Yup. Those are my words. I stand by every one of them. If any of you can convince me that domainers add any value for the end user then please do go ahead?

They are obviously not going to be able to as there is zero value add for the end users.

But asking on here for domainers to justify their non-contribution in value add is utterly pointless... what exactly do you expect them to say?

 

[Edwin]

They are obviously not going to be able to as there is zero value add for the end users.

Why are you here? Really?

It's like a vegan hanging out on a meat eater's forum. Pointless for all sides.

 

[Retired_Member38]

Why are you here? Really?

It's like a vegan hanging out on a meat eater's forum. Pointless for all sides.

Because I buy domains - it makes sense for me to know what you guys are doing.

Why don't you pick a random domain from your portfolio and tell us all what the value add in the transaction is from you selling it for £xxxx is then?

 

[Murray]

Yup. Those are my words. I stand by every one of them. If any of you can convince me that domainers add any value for the end user then please do go ahead?

Just out of interest, what would you like to see done? or how you like the whole system to work to see that domainers don't benefit.

I'm totally open minded by the way, I'd like to think I can put my own interests to the side in favour of fairness for all .

 

[Edwin]

Why don't you pick a random domain from your portfolio and tell us all what the value add in the transaction is from you selling it for £xxxx is then?

Why? You're the one with the divergent opinion here, not me!

Worth a (re)read perhaps?
http://www.webmastering.co.uk/domain-names/the-myth-of-the-domain-name-queue-of-one/

 

[Hazel Pegg]

NEDs are not supposed to hold such a strong bias - at least not without acknowledging it as a personal belief that should not affect their in-role behaviour.

I can do that. It is a strong personal belief. I also have a strong personal bias against capitalism in general and members of the Tory party in particlular. None of which has ever prevented me from working with capitalists or sharing a pint down the pub with Tories.

I've long given up any hope of the secondary market disappearing in a puff of smoke. It appears to be a neccessary evil so I restrict myself to the hope that it can be kept in its box and not threaten the primary market on which it feeds.

 

[Retired_Member38]

Why? You're the one with the divergent opinion here, not me!

Worth a (re)read perhaps?
http://www.webmastering.co.uk/domain-names/the-myth-of-the-domain-name-queue-of-one/

I'm not saying there isn't value in a domain - I'm saying you personally add zero to the transaction by buying it for £5 and selling it for £500.

Like Hazel says... you're adding nothing to the transaction. I don't have a problem with that as such - I have plenty websites that don't particularly add any value to transactions. I just find it funny that domainers try to justify this with them doing anything of value at all.

 

[Retired_Member42]

Alright guys, let's not turn another thread into the Monkey & Edwin show

 

[Edwin]

Alright guys, let's not turn another thread into the Monkey & Edwin show

I certainly hope not!

 

[Hazel Pegg]

There will be a number that you'd walk away from Glastonbury.co.uk for.

Nobody has ever made me an offer for glastonbury.co.uk.

PS - it isn't for sale

 

[Hazel Pegg]

I presented you with a valuable reason once, a long time ago, on nom-steer and in person and from memory you accepted my explanation.

That's because I am quite a polite person in real life. Having said which I do accept that not everything that 'domainers' do is evil. But I do live in Happy Hippy Land aka The Heart Chakra of the Universe. A bit of fluffy-duffy idealism en-route to Burns the Bread is normal around here. Only sellers of crystals & snake oil are allowed to turn a profit. The rest of are far to pure to allow a hint of commercialisation into our lives

 

[Retired_Member42]

I think a lot of people here would have more luck selling snake oil than their domain portfolios

 

[julian]

Why do you hate the domain community so much?

Yes. Me. Though I may not be considered as a friend of the domain trading community!

 

[julian]

not true,

- I made you a good starting offer for it a long while back, we were in the mild first stages of negotiation, you never even had the decency to follow it up - obviously waiting for the big offer to come in from MegaCorp types

Nobody has ever made me an offer for glastonbury.co.uk.

PS - it isn't for sale

 

[Retired_Member42]

not true,

- I made you a good starting offer for it a long while back, we were in the mild first stages of negotiation, you never even had the decency to follow it up - obviously waiting for the big offer to come in

In all fairness there is a big difference between getting a domain, building a site on it and then putting it up for sale / taking offers / selling it to manually registering thousands of obscure crap .co.uk's and slapping a £XXXX price tag on each in the hope of some hapless noob to come along and empty their wallets.

 

[Retired_Member42]

The problem with using made up terms such as "domainer" is they have the annoying effect of simplifying something that shouldn't be simplified so much. Many that invest in domain names do so in all manner of ways.


(from iPhone)

I agree completely. It's a vast scope. I've been labelled as "anti-domainer" in the past when I'm really not. I'm simply against false selling tactics such as "buy this and get top of Google" and "investors" hoarding thousands of domains and pricing people who want to legitmately use them out of the market.

The buy to let landlords comparison is actually a good one. Sure everybody does it to make money but at least they're been sold on / rented at the market rate. Some domain "investors" do the property equivalent of buying a house next to somebody's sick grandmother and selling to her grandson at 10x the asking price.