Where's the Money? - Poll

[boxfish]

Excellent advice from namdas

 

[Aiden Roberts]

I agree; fantastic information.

Aiden

 

[boxfish]

I agree; fantastic information.

Aiden

If you want to read about someone who did similar to what has been mentioned in this thread then take a look at this Q&A with the owner of AndroidForums.com

http://www.wickedfire.com/enlightened-members/93900-ask-me-anything.html

 

[Blossom]

Each month I'd add a bit more content and a few more links, nothing too remarkable just a steady pace, and then all of a sudden you'd find that a year later you actually have quite a good website and you're making enough income from it to reinvest and perhaps make it great - or just rank for some great keywords. Far too many affiliates do the dfirst month's build, sit back and then wonder why nothing ever works for them. Persistence is far more valuable than any one domain name or any one link.

Its also true that if you stumbled upon creditcards.co.uk, carinsurance.co.uk or cheapholidays.co.uk it is unlikely that you could rank for those terms until you had cut your teeth elsewhere - in competitive verticals even with the right name it can take a huge investment in marketing and time to get ranking so it is not all about a great name - even if they do give you a boost, that can often just be a boost from #150 to #30 and still nowhere near where people will actually look in the serps. The EMD I mention above took over 18 months to hit the top ten for its search term and until then only got 5 UV a day, and in the mean time it was my smaller, less ambitious sites that were keeping me in noodles and street food

There's nothing wrong with starting with a smaller EMD term, provided you don't box yourself in - eg whatmobilephone and pinkmobilephone both have low exacts, but one day whatmobilephone could conceivably rank for mobile deals, mobile contracts or many other generics while pinkmobilephone just wouldn't fit right.

Just to add that it doesn't have to be just about the golden exact match keyword. There's plenty of opportunity to rank on longer tail terms with good content and careful research, which will help you pull in a steady income and still help you towards your ultimate ranking goal.

 

[Sussexite]

Long tail suitability

If developing.....

..choosing a domain which has an exact match which is a component of many long tail exact matches is a huge help.

eg
domainname

The long tail really does add up.

And decent pages for each long tail phrase reinforce the relevance (and ranking) of the main domain name term in search. Win Win.

 

[Aiden Roberts]

If you want to read about someone who did similar to what has been mentioned in this thread then take a look at this Q&A with the owner of AndroidForums.com

http://www.wickedfire.com/enlightened-members/93900-ask-me-anything.html

Great link boxfish

 

[Aiden Roberts]

1 day into the poll, end users and affiliate sites doing well, surprised at flipping would have thought more regular flippers? Blogging and forums with no votes; ah well it's still only early.

 

[Retired_member41]

Whats your opinion Rob, you seem to have plenty of blogs knocking about, are you making much from them?

I quite fancy having a couple of blogs.

 

[Aiden Roberts]

Whats your opinion Rob, you seem to have plenty of blogs knocking about, are you making much from them?

I quite fancy having a couple of blogs.

Thank you for asking "Caz"

For what it is worth my opinion is that it is too early for me to give you a definitive answer. Yes I have a couple of blogs both of which bring in trickles but certainly one of them was never going to be an earner as it is mainly for information. I see blogs as a way of organising my thoughts and if somebody else reads them it's a bonus. I included blogs in the poll as I am curious to know if anyone else earns from them?

I have flipped a couple, sold to an end user and have made a few affiliate sales but nothing that would set the world a light, I am a newbie looking to focus my efforts and the insight of more seasoned Acorner's has been very helpful.

Caz; you clearly have a lot of experience and strong views so please share with us where you feel the money is based on your business model and what advice would you give to people entering the arena?

Aiden

P.S I hope you voted

 

[Aiden Roberts]

9 days in; end users and affiliate sites are where the money is, can domain flipping really be dead? If so that would tie in with people getting out of catching and a slow down in auction sales.

The top end domains will always find a market and it looks like all of the dormant names are getting developed into sites, maybe that's where the money really is?

 

[Blossom]

I think you're asking in a very biased place to be honest. Ask on Acorn and you'll get results skewed to domains, ask on Warrior and you'll get results skewed to ebook and clickbank products, ask on Web Hosting Talk and you'll get results skewed to hosting.

The problem is that not many people have tried enough of those things in enough depth to be able to give a solid, well-founded opinion.

 

[urbanvilla]

Development is where the money is but in saying that there are so many bad developed sites out there including some done by domainers or at least by their coders,to find a development team which can do a proper job is a big job in itself,i have two full time developers ho work for me a coder and a webdesigner,not cheap !

 

[philiporchard]

If developing.....

..choosing a domain which has an exact match which is a component of many long tail exact matches is a huge help.

eg
domainname

The long tail really does add up.

And decent pages for each long tail phrase reinforce the relevance (and ranking) of the main domain name term in search. Win Win.

The joy of Geos is the long tail - Not sure how many permutations there are of business categories x city names, but it's quite a few... i.e 'barbers harlow' 'barbers stockport'. If they'd all rank on page 1 of Google I'd be laughing

 

[Aiden Roberts]

Developing affiliate sites has crept into the lead on a domaining forum, has the industry changed?

 

[MikeJDS]

The moneys at the "TOP of the tree!"
The higher you go, the more you get.

True?

 

[Aiden Roberts]

Developing still in the lead, given that there was a trend for parking names previously does that mean parking is officially dead and developing mini sites or full blown sites is now where the money is?

 

[binny]

Developing still in the lead, does that mean parking is officially dead?

Parking isn't one of your options, thats like asking someone if they want ketchup, mayo or brown sauce then declaring salad cream as unpopular.

 

[boxfish]

Developing still in the lead, does that mean parking is officially dead?

Is there a prize for whoever gets the right answer?

 

[Aiden Roberts]

Parking isn't one of your options, thats like asking someone if they want ketchup, mayo or brown sauce then declaring salad cream as unpopular.

Quite right, I will edit my post.

 

[Bailey]

my vote is on flipping - and still new territory out there to be registered. But the domain investment won't be from wishful thinking availability anymore. (hasn't been for a long time anyway)

If you can identify with new/immerging/under-expolited markets, then there's still lots of opportunity out there.

I won't be thanked for saying this but if your going to be creative YOU have to operate in .com - nothing less