What put you off my tool?

[greg2013]

Greg but its worse than that - it will be failing (at least in part) due to data inputted by the user, as they're being asked to answer questions on their own domain. So no amount of tweaking is going to fix it.

Hmm, thinking about it as a real coding requirement as how I'd approach it, it's even worse than that. And is impractical-to-impossible checking with scripts.
As a coder, I wouldn't accept the job even if the pay was amazing.

Even the simplest level of single dictionary word .coms have different values - toilet.com vs aardvark.com vs bank.com vs porn.com.
How do you determine in a script the above domain values even on face value, let alone with seasons, current affairs, and identify brand-ability which is only possible manually by a human?

Even if you had a database just full of dictionary words and their values (which is insane) how do you determine if a combination of two (or more) words are valuable together?

Consider:
1) telephone.com - very decent
2) handsets.com - very decent
3) telephonehandsets.com - lot less than the above two but still decent

4) apples.com - very decent
5) telephoneapples.com - err, reg fee?

A script cannot determine the value difference between 1) 2) and 4), let alone the huge difference in value between 3) and 5) without a database full of dictionary words and the equivalent .com values, and then also combinations of words together.

Which would be millions of combinations, and is more insane than insane Bob being exceptionally insane on insane day.

 

[martin-s]

A script cannot determine the value difference between 1) 2) and 4), let alone the huge difference in value between 3) and 5) without a database full of dictionary words and the equivalent .com values, and then also combinations of words together.

If it uses the Google Keyword Planner, it has a reasonable shot at identifying telephoneapples.com as junk I guess

 

[Retired_Member38]

There are hundreds/thousands of other factors that a script can't even begin to take account of.

If a domain is an exact match domain, you not only need to value that domain - you need to analyse the top search results and see if you can realistically rank (or will be able to in the future)

You need to see if Google is abusing its market position in your niche (or is likely to in the future)

You need to check if the domain is a sinking niche or a rapidly growing one - self cert mortgages, dvd players, buy bitcoins, directory submissions, 4g internet, etc etc etc.

You need to check other countries to see if they have any sort of pricing effect (american spellings and so on, or even popular Hispanic/Polish phrases or whatever)

You need to check regulations and who can compete (ie may not be legal for someone unregistered, payday loans need a CCL, etc)


Those are just a few off the top of my head. Those alone make a project like this utterly pointless, and imo there are way more of them were they came from

 

[martin-s]

Yes, couldn't agree more Monkey. I guess an automated tool could determine that some domains aren't valuable, but it's a lot harder to say which are accurately.

 

[greg2013]

There are hundreds/thousands

Yeah, I just started with the first thoughts I had as if I was asked to develop it myself.

Does the domain have bad backlinks, links from spam sites, is there an equivalent .co.uk or net etc already well established, with perhaps copyright...

The list goes on.

Sorry julian :|

 

[greg2013]

If it uses the Google Keyword Planner, it has a reasonable shot at identifying telephoneapples.com as junk I guess

How? (Genuinely asking how and not debating as I've not used it)

Surely it wouldn't be anywhere close to returning telephoneapples.com is worth £x if telephone.com and apples.com come back as having masses of searches for those keywords and both being worth £xx,xxx each?

What about jobsflights.com? Both very valuable keywords, yet together mean nothing.

While it might hit a 95% accuracy some of the time, it also hitting 10% accurate or less other times makes it entirely unreliable.

We're aiming at >90% accuracy >90% of the time, ideally.

 

[Retired_Member42]

How? (Genuinely asking how and not debating as I've not used it)

Surely it wouldn't be anywhere close to returning telephoneapples.com is worth £x if telephone.com and apples.com come back as having masses of searches for those keywords and both being worth £xx,xxx each?

What about jobsflights.com? Both very valuable keywords, yet together mean nothing.

While it might hit a 95% accuracy some of the time, it also hitting 10% accurate or less other times makes it entirely unreliable.

We're aiming at >90% accuracy >90% of the time, ideally.

You'd split the domain up by dictionary words e.g. telephoneapples.com as "telephone apples" and query the phrase via keyword planner, not the individual words that form it.