Upcoming Dan changes

[diablo]

I didn't know that about LTO payments until reading about it on here last night, that's ridiculous, so I've turned LTO off on all my domains, I'm not supporting GoDaddy by giving them money to hold for extra weeks, to earn interest on.

Be careful you don't impact sales: better to get the money a few weeks later than previously than not at all. Not that I don't agree with your sentiment.

 

[Systreg]

@diablo,

Yeah, I know what you mean, but I've had no interest in anything on LTO yet, so I'm not too bothered about turning it off.

 

[Lovekraft]

Recently every time I see there's a new "update" at dan.com it makes me shudder as it's always something nobody wants and only serves their own interests. Bit by bit they are just destroying it.

We've been completely hammered this year with:

Increase from 9% to 15% commission
Forced to listing in dollars only with only 2 days notice given
Forced Afternic participation (which is the reason why we were forced to list in dollars)
Delayed LTO Payments

What's next? Payments to be made by cheque only, collection from their US offices in person only?..

 

[Paullas]

Next it will be you have to transfer your domains into BIGDADDY to park them on Afterdan

 

[Lovekraft]

So it's been around 6 weeks now, just wondering how people are finding either having stayed with Dan or having moved to somewhere like Sedo?

I had a couple of sales remaining on dan.com but it's been very quiet since, zero offers. Normally i'd have a trickle of offers come in. It's still bugging me seeing all my domains listed in dollars, I just can't get comfortable with it so might still move to Sedo but was wondering how people are finding it there?

 

[Nigel]

Summer is usually slow but did make a $1500 'buy now' sale on dan last week for a two word .uk (funny enough the .co.uk is on hugedomains at $2795 and hasn't yet sold - but I noticed today it says it is in 1 person's cart). I have moved quite a few to sedo on cheaper 'buy now' prices but nothing so far. The bulk are still with dan and the buyer last week was uk end user so didn't put him off. I think things should pick up in Sept - I'm not happy about the dollar change and think it is disrespectful to uk and european domainers (who are not able to sell in euros - even though dan are based in the eu!). But I can't be bothered at the moment to shift a lot more domains, and not sure if it makes a lot of difference - i.e. if someone really wants a domain they'll come and buy it - but will continue to wait and see what other options are available, and will continue using sedo for now - not a good idea to have all eggs in one basket.

 

[Systreg]

I still haven't pulled the trigger on moving away from Dan, it's very slow at the moment regarding offers, but I expected that during this time of year, as summer always seems to be slow for sales on Dan.

I have all domains listed on Sedo in readiness, but haven't changed nameservers as yet.

Over previous years on Dan, these are the total amount of offers/sales for the months of Jul and Aug:

Offers:

Jul 2
Aug 1

Sales:

Jul 1
Aug 0

 

[diablo]

So it's been around 6 weeks now, just wondering how people are finding either having stayed with Dan or having moved to somewhere like Sedo?

I had a couple of sales remaining on dan.com but it's been very quiet since, zero offers. Normally i'd have a trickle of offers come in. It's still bugging me seeing all my domains listed in dollars, I just can't get comfortable with it so might still move to Sedo but was wondering how people are finding it there?

Think it's far too early to say, and like others have said, July and August aren't the best indicators as so many people are on holiday.

 

[MapleDots]

Why do I feel discussing anything about dan.com is basically the same as discussing an incumbent politician?

We all know how it ends!

 

[Lovekraft]

So i've had a while to trest the waters over at Sedo now and quite frankly I'm very dissapointed. The one sale I had there was extremely slow (2.5 weeks to finally receive payment after it was made and lots of chasing vs the usual 24 to 48 hours from dan.com).

However now their systems perform daily WHOIS checks to see if domains in your portfolio are still registred and deletes any that aren't. Fair enough, except it is now deleting domains from my portfolio there on a daily basis that are clearly still registered, sometimes it's just one other times it's 8 in one day. It is very time consuming having to re-add the domains, assign them the correct sales page (which is a slow multi stage process on Sedo) and figure out the individual pricing for each individual domain that i've already previously added. I emailed their support and all they had to say is the proceess successfully deletes thosuands of domains that are no longer registered so there's no issue here, sorry it's causing you a daily headache but we won't be looking any further into it. Ticket closed. Their system has deleted 30% of my portfolio on there now and they couldn't care less that i'm having to spin plates constantly re-adding them every day.

Anyone else on sedo having this same issue?

So yeah time to move back to dan.com :/ Interetsed to see what brandable might have to offer once it's properly launched.

 

[webber]

I emailed their support and all they had to say is the proceess successfully deletes thosuands of domains that are no longer registered so there's no issue here, sorry it's causing you a daily headache but we won't be looking any further into it. Ticket closed.

This has been going on for years. Other people have also talked about this issue on Acorn.
I've personally opened a ticked and explained the problem to them, but got a similar response. They don't care.

As far as I can tell, their system is very, very poorly designed.
For example today I got their "Account Maintenance Check" notification to inform me that <rcc.uk> was removed.
But this domain is live today and was renewed almost a month ago (01/09/2023), but it was past its expiry date (22/06/2024) at that time. So their system has a delayed processing of some sorts.

During a routine Account Maintenance Check, we noticed that you have one or more domains listed with Sedo that are not currently registered.
Since the domain(s) in question are not active and therefore cannot be traded or parked through Sedo, we've removed them from your Sedo account.

To ensure the quality of Sedo's marketplace, we will be conducting frequent Account Maintenance Checks for all Sedo accounts. This increased awareness of the domains listed on Sedo will allow our team to detect and remove any expired domains from our site.
Please review the domains below which are ones that have been deleted from Sedo's marketplace:

rcc.uk

Although Account Maintenance Checks are conducted regularly, we encourage you to keep track of the domains you have listed for sale with Sedo. This will circumvent domains being removed automatically without your knowledge from our marketplace moving forward.
If you have further questions, please contact our http://support.sedo.co.uk.
Best Regards,

Your Sedo Team
Customer Support - UK/International

Unfortunately I've also started getting similar notifications from Dan as well. Far fewer though.
They too delete domains that are suspended. I've emailed them as well and got a similar response.

The only solution to this is probably to never let your domains expire...

 

[Lovekraft]

Yes I get the same issue on dan.com with suspended domains which is frustrating however at the time of deletion they are actually suspended vs sedo who are deleting domains that perhaps were suspended at some point but were renewed months ago ( a quick check shows me one domain I renewed on 1st Aug and it was deleted over the weekend just past). So yeah it's one hell of a delayed process!

Dissapointing to hear that it's been going on for years then, tbh I had my reservations about moving back to Sedo as I didn't exactly have fond memories of using them many years ago but it's sad to see they haven't improved one bit.

 

[baldidiot]

So it's been around 6 weeks now, just wondering how people are finding either having stayed with Dan or having moved to somewhere like Sedo?

I had a couple of sales remaining on dan.com but it's been very quiet since, zero offers. Normally i'd have a trickle of offers come in. It's still bugging me seeing all my domains listed in dollars, I just can't get comfortable with it so might still move to Sedo but was wondering how people are finding it there?

I've stuck with Dan and actually not noticed much of a difference. Although I'd actually switched to USD before the forced change because of the afternic connection.

August - One sale ($3,700 after negotiation) plus one serious ~$3k lead but we didn't go for it as we wanted a bit more
September - One sale ($1,450 after negotiation) plus a couple of offers that were way too low

We probably average between 1 and 3 sales a month via dan, plus a couple more enquiries, so the above doesn't seem too different to me.

 

[Nigel]

So i've had a while to trest the waters over at Sedo now and quite frankly I'm very dissapointed. The one sale I had there was extremely slow (2.5 weeks to finally receive payment after it was made and lots of chasing vs the usual 24 to 48 hours from dan.com).

However now their systems perform daily WHOIS checks to see if domains in your portfolio are still registred and deletes any that aren't. Fair enough, except it is now deleting domains from my portfolio there on a daily basis that are clearly still registered, sometimes it's just one other times it's 8 in one day. It is very time consuming having to re-add the domains, assign them the correct sales page (which is a slow multi stage process on Sedo) and figure out the individual pricing for each individual domain that i've already previously added. I emailed their support and all they had to say is the proceess successfully deletes thosuands of domains that are no longer registered so there's no issue here, sorry it's causing you a daily headache but we won't be looking any further into it. Ticket closed. Their system has deleted 30% of my portfolio on there now and they couldn't care less that i'm having to spin plates constantly re-adding them every day.

Anyone else on sedo having this same issue?

So yeah time to move back to dan.com :/ Interetsed to see what brandable might have to offer once it's properly launched.

Yes I am fed up with this too. You'd think Sedo would have fixed this by now. Pretty stupid error - deleting domains based on what the whois said 2 or 3 months ago. I think I'll have to move ours back to Dan - I had only moved over a couple of hundred - so pleased I didn't waste any more time.