.uk domain has been registered by someone else

[tifosi]

I've had a domain that Nominet released & I caught revoked by Nominet in the past at 'their error' so there is hope.

When was it registered initially? Has it gone through the 92days release cycle?

Take screen printouts of your registrar account pages to show that it is live in your account. Print out the invoice as well showing registrar & registration details. You'll probably need them for proof of purchase by Nominet.

 

[Retired_Member38]

I actually paid for registering the .uk too why should I lose it like this?

If you've genuinely paid for it I would imagine you'll end up with the domain and the 'other' buyer is going to be out of luck here.

Did the payment definitely go through ? If there was a billing issue and you haven't actually paid for it even although you thought you did, it could be a mess to sort out.

 

[mat]

Imagine though if someone registers a .uk innocently, which isn't noticed by the .co.uk owner for months/years. By this time the .uk owner may have put major effort and money into developing a site, or even sold the name for a large amount. What a messy situation that would be!

 

[tifosi]

From what it appears he didn't confirm the .uk 2LD registration within the period of time required and it was deleted. It doesn't go through 92 days in this respect.

OP: did you register it with the same or a different registrar to the .co.uk?

If that's the case shouldn't the rights revert to previous registrant i.e. .co.uk even if it was him that registered the .uk. If not that's a massive loophole!

 

[bedazzledaz]

I definitely paid for it, I've got an invoice stamped paid on it, It's registered with the company who are hosting my .co.uk.

I don't actually recall getting the email from Nominet, naively I probably thought as the hosting company asked me if I owned the .co.uk and I saw my name as the registrant that all was fine.

 

[tifosi]

Invincible was talking about 'different registrar'. If it's the same registrar then that IS a loophole if the registration fails and is deleted but the rights don't revert.

All supposition til we find out what Nominet say.

 

[DaveP]

Just to clarify a couple of things here. From the OP's first post:

when I went into my host control panel it shows the domain in there and regged until 10/06/2016 with auto renewal.

So basically you registered the .uk on 10th June 2014.

If you fail to click the verification link in the email Nominet send within 14 days (I think), this domain would've reverted back to just showing as .co.uk having rights (I tested this myself on a few of my own domains).

So only a couple possibilities:

1) The OP failed to click the link, and then due to some bug in Nominet's system rather than revert the domain back to having rights, it went ahead and deleted the domain (again it would've been a bug and not the normal behaviour). This means it went unnoticed between roughly end of June until 18th October as being available.. (In this case the OP will get the domain back from Nominet I'm sure).

2) The OP clicked the verification link and now the domain has been deleted by his registrar for whatever reason. (In this case I can't see how the OP will get the domain back).

 

[bedazzledaz]

OK just checked my emails, I registered the domain at TSO host on 10th June, I've not got an email from Nominet until 17th June which says:

========================================================================
Domain Name:
b***cases.uk
========================================================================
Thank you for applying to register your domain name.

Unfortunately you have not completed the required email authentication and so your application has now been rejected.

Should you wish to re-apply please ensure that you provide a contact email address that you can send and receive emails from so that you can authenticate your contact details with it.

Kind regards,
Customer Services Team

So I never clicked any verification links

 

[bedazzledaz]

The registrar may still have been 1&1 at the time, I'm not sure, but it was hosted at TSO at the time, I know the .co.uk was renewed in July 2014 so it may have changed to TSO tag then

 

[tifosi]

The registrar may still have been 1&1 at the time, I'm not sure, but it was hosted at TSO at the time, I know the .co.uk was renewed in July 2014 so it may have changed to TSO tag then

23rd? Last updated on .co.uk.

 

[bedazzledaz]

No I paid TSO on the renewal date for the domain reg fee, I've never paid nominet for any domains to change tag when I've changed hosting accounts.

 

[bedazzledaz]

Ah actually, sorry yes I would've requested the tag change at 1&1 when I moved the .co.uk to TSO

 

[DaveP]

Who else has thought to do this, for whatever reasons?

Way to spoil the party for those of us already here.

 

[Retired_member41]

I think I've worked out what's going on and it looks like some smoke to cover up something else that's happened if that makes sense?

 

[bedazzledaz]

What do you mean?

 

[bedazzledaz]

Yes, I called them earlier and they just got back to me, they said it's not obvious what's happened so they now have a developer looking into it, I just have to wait now until they get back to me.

 

[DarrenTSO]

Our domains manager (Dan) is currently working with Nominet to track down exactly what happened here and what's gone wrong. Hopefully we can get to the bottom of it but it seems definitely like there's a loophole of some kind in Nominet's system to allow this.

 

[xdnet]

I've spoken with Nominet, who apparently do not have an update yet.

I've looked into this, it does appear that it was submitted on 10th June and then was rejected due to failure to verify.

It does seem like there's a problem on Nominet's side here so hopefully we can get this worked out with Nominet, I'll check in with them again tomorrow, but do feel free to reply back to your ticket with us if you have any updates or queries.

Once we know what happened exactly, we'll do everything we can do ensure it's resolved quickly.

Dan

 

[bedazzledaz]

Thanks Dan, appreciate it.

 

[denchomsky]

BTW, I don't think this was mentioned in the thread (I read most of it) but you get the verification email whether it is a fresh .uk reg (without having .uk rights) or if you own the .co.uk and do have rights