The things I have learnt whilst building a Drop Catch system

[davedevelopment]

I've not tried, simply because I don't have any experience with any of the compilers. HipHop translates the PHP to c++ and then compiles, so I'd probably just stick to exploring that route rather than any of the other compilers.

 

[gareth_brown]

A quick look on the big G shows there are a few open source compilers. I quick question. Can you run multiple threads with PHP?

 

[monaghan]

I thought that later versions of PHP compiled at load time, hence the capability to cache compiled code on web servers to reduce startup times on popular sites.

Admittedly it is compiled to intermediate code, but that's no different to .Net or Java.

Not thought of trying HipHop, might be worth giving it a bash, however if I run "top", on my box, the top process or the sshd process serving my session is usually using more resource than the php process running the catch code!

 

[monaghan]

A quick look on the big G shows there are a few open source compilers. I quick question. Can you run multiple threads with PHP?

You can run concurrent processes and use shared memory to communicate between processes, I've used this technique quite successfully on some catch code for a different registry.

 

[gareth_brown]

One of my first attempts was running the MAX 4 connections, it worked but without tight controls could have left me exceeding my quota!

 

[urbanvilla]

Have you learnt where the place to have the server located yet?

 

[Edwin]

I have no programming experience and wrote my own script in seven days while learning. It's not the fastest out there and hasn't done as well recently (it's averaged 5-8 names a month for Edwin over the last couple of months) but it did catch over thirty names in one month for Edwin last year against the other 9 or 10 TAGs that catch for him so can't be that bad.

Yes, I'm certainly very happy with it

 

[Tyrannical]

This thread has certainly sparked my interest in domain catching, one thing still puzzles me though is how do people build up a drop list, do they literally query the dac for every single keyworded domain that there is and build up some sort of database with expiry dates, or buy the lists from elsewhere or what?

Very nice thread though, thanks for shedding some light on the subject

 

[wb]

This thread has certainly sparked my interest in domain catching, one thing still puzzles me though is how do people build up a drop list, do they literally query the dac for every single keyworded domain that there is and build up some sort of database with expiry dates, or buy the lists from elsewhere or what?

Both, you can get drop lists from others but it's best to create your own if you want to find the 'hidden gems'.

 

[monaghan]

This thread has certainly sparked my interest in domain catching, one thing still puzzles me though is how do people build up a drop list, do they literally query the dac for every single keyworded domain that there is and build up some sort of database with expiry dates, or buy the lists from elsewhere or what?

Very nice thread though, thanks for shedding some light on the subject

Technically you can't hold data retrieved from the DAC, however, there are some guidelines on what is acceptable within the DAC T&C's on Nominet's site. But in summary, yes, you build a word list, add a .co.uk to the end and stuff it into the DAC and look at the results or you buy one from someone who has put in the work.

 

[Tyrannical]

Cheers guys, something to think about. I'd always be worried buying a list from someone else that the best ones had already been cherry picked out so i guess it would be better to do it yourself

 

[aZooZa]

Cheers guys, something to think about. I'd always be worried buying a list from someone else that the best ones had already been cherry picked out so i guess it would be better to do it yourself

A list supplier that cherry picks won't be around for long

 

[monaghan]

A list supplier that cherry picks won't be around for long

What that man said!

There's no benefit in removing stuff from the list, the best names are always going to get booked everywhere anyway regardless of whether they are on your list or not so there's little to be gained other than negative feedback.

If you have the spare DAC quota and sufficient word lists, then you will of course be better off building and maintaining your own lists as you have 100% control.

 

[wb]

What's the best way to manage your own lists? Are there any programs which work well?

At the moment I'm just using a basic spreadsheet, which isn't ideal :?

Once I have a TAG, membership and DAC then I'll be looking up far more domains so need to start planning ahead

 

[theonemanyuri]

I don't really understand 80% of what is talked about in this thread, but it's nice to actually have some open discussion about drop catching which until reading this seemed more secretive than m16 and the kgb put together. Thanks for being so open.

 

[monaghan]

I don't really understand 80% of what is talked about in this thread, but it's nice to actually have some open discussion about drop catching which until reading this seemed more secretive than m16 and the kgb put together. Thanks for being so open.

It is hardly a secret, all the technical data is on the Nominet web site (the public site, not members only) and has been there for many years, that is where most people get their info from.

What very few people will discuss is the real low level detail of how they implement their solution as this is where the competitive advantage come from in how you choose to implement the technical detail.

We can all read the ingredients on a tin of beans, go out and buy our own to make beans to put on our toast, but only Heinz will know the exact method needed to create a real tin of Heinz beans.

 

[aZooZa]

It is hardly a secret, all the technical data is on the Nominet web site (the public site, not members only) and has been there for many years, that is where most people get their info from.

What very few people will discuss is the real low level detail of how they implement their solution as this is where the competitive advantage come from in how you choose to implement the technical detail.

We can all read the ingredients on a tin of beans, go out and buy our own to make beans to put on our toast, but only Heinz will know the exact method needed to create a real tin of Heinz beans.

Great post. Love the metaphor!

 

[theonemanyuri]

It is hardly a secret, all the technical data is on the Nominet web site

I don't use the nominet website, I do use the acorn domains website

 

[monaghan]

I don't use the nominet website, I do use the acorn domains website

Surely in any market, getting the information direct from the top level source is the best route rather than relying on 3rd party interpretations?

 

[theonemanyuri]

It is ye I agree, if I was intending to research drop catching I would have done the very same. But I didn't intend to go out of my way to research drop catching, I use this site anyway, my point being it was nice to see a thread where someone goes some ways towards explaining what goes on.

I had a quick look on nominet out of interest and I still think I gathered more from this thread, nominet doesn't appear any less technically worded?