The Release of NON Registered .uk

[SF]

Lets campain for the big free for all!! ive already started to compile a hot list!

 

[spiderspider]

I don't have anything to add at the moment. Previous comments are and have always been, whenever I've stated them, my personal opinion.

So as a NED are you trying to do anything to change what is already out there for 2019?

The whole 'I don't have anything to add' makes you look like a dense forest.

Very Shady.

 

[martin-s]

• India had .co.in before .in.
• China had .com.cn before .cn
• Mexico had .com.mx before .mx
• Columbia had .com.co before wide availability of .co
• Brazil still has {many}.br but not .br
• New Zealand had .co|.org.nz before .nz but only a 6 month ROFR
• Australia doesn't have .au and is now considering opening it.

.in - Great example. Even Google still redirects theirs to .co.in
.mx - Special case because of MX DNS I imagine
.co - Special case because it was sold as the new .com, given .com namespace competition

How are the stats looking for .nz and .cn?

 

[spiderspider]

.....we won't simply see a huge "drop" of whatever is left unclaimed beginning at midnight on whatever the relevant date is come June 2019.

Why ever not?

Nominet have told everyone for the last 2 and a half years that this will be the way it will happen. Any change to the way how DROPPING domains are handled by Nom, should not interfere with the .uk that will be coming onto the open market for the first time.

The way these domains will be handled has been publicised, albeit not very well, and any change before June 2019 will just cause more confusion. The handling of the whole .uk situation has been terrible, but its a bit late now to be re-thinking, ripping up the rules, and starting again.

 

[martin-s]

I'm sorry but you appear to be making absolutely no sense to me.

That doesn't surprise me.

I thought you were listing them as examples of dramatically successful releases of second level extensions?

 

[martin-s]

And are any of them successful? Have any overtaken the 3rd level in terms of registrations and public acceptance?

 

[Edwin]

If Nominet hadn't released .uk at the second level I strongly believe people would have been clammering for them to do it until they did.

I believe that's a different position to the one that you took during the V1 and V2 consultations? Certainly, there were a lot of voices raised against Nominet for their inability to provide more than vague anecdotal evidence of "interest" in the existence of .uk - it's a matter of record that there was no formal survey done to ascertain this, only a bunch of unstatistic hearsay - and I thought you were among those raising the issue (I know I was!)

If so, what has happened in the intervening 4 years that makes you feel that people are MORE interested in .uk now than they were 4 years ago? For the life of me, I can't see it...

 

[Edwin]

And are any of them successful? Have any overtaken the 3rd level in terms of registrations and public acceptance?

I have data on some cctld extensions as of 2012, which was prepared for the V1 consultation. It shows the old/new split i.e. 3rd level/2nd level, and the growth patterns since 2nd level launch. See "Appendix C" and "Appendix E" of this document
http://www.mydomainnames.co.uk/ukpositionpaper.pdf

 

[martin-s]

I'm actually coming around to thinking that the best scenario for .uk is that it's a damp squib. If no one ever uses it and it doesn't gain any public recognition, then the fears about it becoming one or other of a Nominet tax or a security risk are null and void.

Who's with me?

 

[anthony]

So who envisages the possibility that come June 2019, Nominet may simply milk the unregistered .uk domains? Back in the day, 'first come, first served' used to mean something to Nominet.

 

[RobM]

I think the old saying is Those who can...do. Those who can't 'teach'...(or get a non-executive position of those who 'can do' hoping that one day they are the former and not the latter).

 

[Skinner]

The stephenfry think is a coffin nail. nearly every link on his site goes to .com, clearly nominet paid him... and not enough to make him stick at it.

 

[spiderspider]

Lets try again as the question is still valid. With all of us planning on June 2019 being when all unclaimed are released, if something is going on that will change this, its only fair that all know.

It's been something I've speculated, probably since the ROFR began, that we won't simply see a huge "drop" of whatever is left unclaimed beginning at midnight on whatever the relevant date is come June 2019.

Why ever not?

 

[sdsinc]

And are any of them successful? Have any overtaken the 3rd level in terms of registrations and public acceptance?

In .in & .co 2nd level registrations now outnumber the 3rd level ones.
In other, less mature ccTLDs, 2nd level regs are also taking over. Obviously opening up the 2nd level in a less mature extension is bound to cause less upheaval.

I'm actually coming around to thinking that the best scenario for .uk is that it's a damp squib. If no one ever uses it and it doesn't gain any public recognition, then the fears about it becoming one or other of a Nominet tax or a security risk are null and void.

Who's with me?

Solution: Brexit first, then split the UK, let Scotland be independent. Welsh can enjoy .cymru and .wales to the full. And we can still reinstate .gb into the root zone....