the reality of the .org.uk market

[Bailey]

You are aware that many domain name investors and developers dont even bother signing up here...
There are many unreported high end .org.uk sales done outside of the forum.

Of course I accept the skew of any voluntary reported market so lets get back to the percentages. I think we can safely assume that its pretty even across the board.

So where are we then: Reported against unreported remain the same for all extensions. The total .org.uk market reresents less than 2% of total uk sales, of that approx half of total reported sales have either been offered at Acorn or sold at Acorn.(The fundemantal requirements of the reseller .org.uk market fitting a narrow criteria. and market segment.)

Yep I'm back wher I started in my original statement. If it don't attract a buyer here its safe to say it aint going to sell

I won't antagonise people with a cost/sales analysis even though the quote of the odd big sale is making this very tempting

 

[doodlebug]

I have been quite shy with .org.uks but not anymore, so I only own 1 at the moment picasso.org.uk but think I will add soon seeing Acorners selling them for nice money outside AD

I would be silly not to have a few of them

 

[mat]

Of course I accept the skew of any voluntary reported market so lets get back to the percentages. I think we can safely assume that its pretty even across the board.

So where are we then: Reported against unreported remain the same for all extensions. The total .org.uk market reresents less than 2% of total uk sales, of that approx half of total reported sales have either been offered at Acorn or sold at Acorn.(The fundemantal requirements of the reseller .org.uk market fitting a narrow criteria. and market segment.)

Yep I'm back wher I started in my original statement. If it don't attract a buyer here its safe to say it aint going to sell

I won't antagonise people with a cost/sales analysis even though the quote of the odd big sale is making this very tempting

My point is that its a fact that some .org.uk's that dont even get a sniff at under £100 on here happily sell to others off of the forum for £xxx - £xxxx

 

[Bailey]

My point is that its a fact that some .org.uk's that dont even get a sniff at under £100 on here happily sell to others off of the forum for £xxx - £xxxx

I do accept your point Mat. There seems to be a fundemental core that understand the market they operate in but, there's a vast majority don't. Sometimes the most basic analysis opens peoples eyes to that reality. This would be a total non-subject if it wasn't for the amount of individuals trying to offer their .org.uks for sale.

I'm trying to condense a few other thread issues into a open subject - and yes it needs discussing

 

[cm1975]

My point is that its a fact that some .org.uk's that dont even get a sniff at under £100 on here happily sell to others off of the forum for £xxx - £xxxx

That statement is applicable to so many domains on AD, not just org.uk. However, since the topic is org.uk domains, I had one listed on AD that had no interest at £15 and sold the next day away from the forum for £250.

 

[namealot]

I'm unsure if the following would be seen as contentious or not but, given the overwhelming number of sales threads for .org.uks, I'm going to ask this one

I often wonder how many people on Acorn realise if you can't sell a .org.uk here at Acorn you can't sell it anywhere - full stop. It dosen't matter how much you want for your .org.uk or how much interest there is - from a sales perspective it ends here.

It has little to do with the,org.uk extension but more to do with the names themselves…

Not all domainer’s buyers, trader’s etc use acorn many don’t even know of its existence.? More domains are sold in other places than on here, There a very few end-users on here (Probably more seller’s/names for sale than buyers on here which also make’s it harder to sell)
Saying it would not sell anywhere when this site is not the biggest seller of names, Not a high % of developers on here, Not particularly used by end user’s doesn’t really add up..?

 

[Sussexite]

.org.uk is primarily a punt on the future rather than an opportunity to make large sales now (other than for the very best names).

The real value in them may come in a few years time when there are even fewer keyword .co.uk or .com domains undeveloped and available for sale in a particular niche.

Or it may not.

With virtually no type in traffic, they need developing to make money now - but at £3 per year to hold there's little to lose by holding a handful (particularly if you have an interest in developing them at some point).

Useful rule of thumb

For a strong keyword, where the .com and .org are already developed by a non-UK business (and maybe the .net and .info), then the .org.uk has a fighting chance of being a very strong competitor in the UK at some point in the future - and end-users will come to realise this.

If the .com, .net etc are parked or already used by UK businesses, then the .org.uk's chances are greatly diminshed.

 

[Bailey]

To put this one to bed - I accept that I've probably over-simplified my perceptions (and opinions) on the standing of .org.uk. Maybe growth in usage may bring it into the mainstream. I've always valued the Gtld .Org quite highly, occasionally even out weighing the .com in some usage. It's just .org.uk does seem to get a disproportionate amount of air-time here on Acorn

 

[ebiz4india]

Acorn is the best place to sell/buy UK domains and if the domains are good, you'll contacted by the end user for sure.

 

[theonemanyuri]

To say no business would use .org.uk isn't true, alright i agree the bigger companies more than likely would not touch it.. but just from scanning the pitchside boards at various football grounds this past couple of seasons there are a fair few .org.uk's visible.

As the domain market gets more saturated it's only natural that other extensions that rank well will increase in popularity.

 

[Bailey]

but just from scanning the pitchside boards at various football grounds this past couple of seasons there are a fair few .org.uk's visible.
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Please don't - I remember letting 'westham.org.uk' drop without a second glance, very news-worthy today.

 

[theonemanyuri]

Lol not so much the teams themselves but companies advertising, and we are talking league 2 up to championship so smaller companies usually.

But you did let a pretty tidy name drop there I would say! Not meaning to rub it in..

 

[robertsone]

westham_org_uk wouldn't be worth a penny though, surely they'd just have DRS'd you for it?

I saw croydonathletic on DL, again amazed anyone would pre-bid it as its an easy DRS for the club to win if they wanted it.

 

[Edwin]

westham_org_uk wouldn't be worth a penny though, surely they'd just have DRS'd you for it?

Why? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Ham

 

[robertsone]

Ah yes good point. Instantly thought of the club and forgot its a place as well. Actually about 3 miles from here :lol:

 

[theonemanyuri]

As Edwin said West Ham is nice geo name, no FC or anything to associate it with football. Croydon Athletic you could quite possibly be right about though. I'm amazed anyone would bid on Croydon Athletic, not because of DRS threat but because they are sh*t

 

[Aaron Clifford]

I caught doverathletic.co.uk few weeks back, and donated it to the club as there pretty local to me.

 

[theonemanyuri]

that's a nice gesture. Did they let it expire or was it owned elsewhere?