September .uk drop discussion

[davedevelopment]

For the first time in a year or so, I spent half an hour last night shuffling things around to change my tactics a little and I actually saw a ",N" this morning! Pleased I'm taking one domain away from all this and it's related to my new found woodworking hobby - mdf.uk.

Blown all my quota though now, so good luck to all of you for the rest of the day.

 

[DomainMagic]

My catching script went rogue this morning and caught gayporn.uk

You'll all be pleased to know that I won't be accompanying it with a suitable photo like Boris yesterday morning

If anyone would like gayporn (just the domain!) please PM as i'm open to offers

 

[Lovekraft]

Many years ago I purchased FL.co.uk (this was when it was one of only a very limited number of 2 letter domains in existence, registered before 2 letter registrations were blocked, long before the rest were eventually auctioned) from the administrators of an Icelandic bank that had went under, right at the last minute, a couple of days before it was due to drop simply by contacting them after digging around a bit. It was actually quite complicated due the company being in administration as Nominet needed loads of signed paperwork from ex directors, copies of invoices etc to first of all get it renewed. The poor sod I was dealing with actually went to great lengths to assist in getting everything we needed, rooting through the basement to find all the paperwork etc, emailing all the ex directors to get them to sign a permission slip etc.

It was quite stressful because I had paid them for the domain and then it eventually reached the day it was due to drop while the administrators and ex director were still scrambling around to get all the right paperwork. In the end Nominet actually put a lock on the domain dropping to allow more time for the paperwork to arrive which I'm not sure I've ever seen happen before.

So yeah I used the contacting method to my advantage before i was properly drop catching but I didn't bother repeating it because it was a lot of work in the end!

 

[cav]

Many years ago I purchased FL.co.uk from the administrators of an Icelandic bank that had went under, right at the last minute, a couple of days before it was due to drop simply by emailing them after digging around a bit. It was actually quite complicated due the company being in administration as Nominet needed loads of signed paperwork from ex directors, copies of invoices etc to first of all get it renewed. The poor sod I was dealing with actually went to great lengths to assist in getting everything we needed, rooting through the basement to find all the paperwork etc, emailing all the ex directors to get them to sign a permission slip etc.

It was quite stressful because I had paid them for the domain and then it eventually reached the day it was due to drop while the administrators and ex director were still scrambling around to get all the right paperwork. In the end Nominet actually put a lock on the domain dropping to allow more time for the paperwork to arrive which I'm not sure I've ever seen happen before.

So yeah I used the contacting method to my advantage before i was properly drop catching but I didn't bother repeating it because it was a lot of work in the end!

nominet did the same for me in an identical situation; they were very helpful.

 

[Lovekraft]

nominet did the same for me in an identical situation; they were very helpful.

Theres a name for the whole process, can you remember what it's called?

 

[Murray]

fi renewed

 

[Hay]

@Murray nothing surprises me... this whole industry is corrupt and full of snakes

 

[3gmedia]

Ok, caught these so far today.

Fintec

Obama

LochnessMonster

Large

Fishmonger

 

[dee]

Ok, caught these so far today.

Fintec

Obama

LochnessMonster

Large

Fishmonger

Nice. Like fintec and large especially

 

[Hay]

Footy.uk and Fi.uk all renewed for snakes on here

 

[Lovekraft]

Footy.uk and Fi.uk all renewed for snakes on here

Just out of interest, if somebody has worked out who owns the domains and contacted them asking if they wish to sell them how does that make them a snake?

 

[Hay]

Yeah when your 13 hours into the day, I also know for a fact that one of the domains sold was not properly owned by the person who sold it.... They sold it on the basis that the owner of the .co.uk (Likely does not want it otherwise they would have taken/renewed it) because they sold the .co.uk to the owner who did not claim the RoR Rights thus the ROR is still sat with the bulk registrations.

 

[Lovekraft]

I mean i guess it must be annoying if you were chasing the domain, i get that but it's still a legit method of acquiring a domain regardless.

 

[Hay]

@Lovekraft - if i sold you Abc.co.uk a year ago (prior to ROR) and you didnt claim the .UK during ROR so fasthosts bulk register them all, meaning i still have access to that ABC.uk but not ABC.co.uk through nominets domain manager or through fasthosts and iknow ABC.uk is dropping today because you have not claimed or renewed the domain... am i ok to sell ABC.uk to someone else and not let it drop? No im not because i dont own the .co.uk anymore and i dont own the rights to the .uk.

In my eyes thats domain theft?

 

[Lovekraft]

so people have been claiming .uk domains long after they sold the matching .co.uk and also after the Ror passed via the Nom control panel? I didn't realise you could. If that's the case then we all predicted this kind of mess would happen when they were first talking about launching the .uk extension.

 

[ian]

Unfortunately the last few days has shown how exploits and tipping off owners can have a destructive influence on the rest.

 

[DaveP]

@Murray nothing surprises me... this whole industry is corrupt and full of snakes

You mean like those who have an unusually high catch rate?

 

[LCHappy]

@Lovekraft - if i sold you Abc.co.uk a year ago (prior to ROR) and you didnt claim the .UK during ROR so fasthosts bulk register them all, meaning i still have access to that ABC.uk but not ABC.co.uk through nominets domain manager or through fasthosts and iknow ABC.uk is dropping today because you have not claimed or renewed the domain... am i ok to sell ABC.uk to someone else and not let it drop? No im not because i dont own the .co.uk anymore and i dont own the rights to the .uk.

In my eyes thats domain theft?

If the .uk is in your name via Nominet, what's the problem? It's yours to sell. The .uk could only have ever been registered to you if you were the registered owner of the .co.uk at the point the .uk was registered. All the other stuff is just a distraction to that point.

I thought you were joking when you said snakes, looks like you are really losing it

 

[Hay]

Just because the .uk is in your name does not mean you own the domain... Perhaps you just can't comprehend the fact selling something that WAS registered for the intended owner of the .co.uk... simply isnt yours to sell, maybe im wrong or maybe im not putting it across clear enough for you to dissect... But if i sell a .co.uk domain prior to ROR being released then the .uk is not legally mine nor would i have been able to create the .uk... in basic terms: fasthosts would have created the .uk on the basis they believed the seller still owned the .co.uk, therefore, that seller can access the .uk via email address but in reality the .uk should have been assigned to the owner of the .co.uk not the seller's email address

 

[LCHappy]

fasthosts would have created the .uk on the basis they believed the seller still owned the .co.uk

I say it again, Fasthosts could not create a .uk that does not match the owner of the .co.uk (listed at Nominet) at the point at which the .uk was registered.