Right of Registration promotion

[RobM]

It will never be established. It won't stop them using figures for free registrations though to claim how successful, wonderful, and wanted the unnecessary extension was. It will also enable them to then raise the price and stiff any poor sods who believe the hype and are then forced into registering a second extension at a later date to avoid splitting their brand. .uk is crap, it serves no purpose at all - this is why they are talking about offering 'free' registrations. They know nobody wants it and they're petrified by the declining numbers and, come registration time, of their paymaster realising how much they are taking for doing nothing and potentially throwing them off the gravy train. Surely it would be better just to copy and register for everyone using the details of the ROR domain but don't set any nameservers? People can always not renew come renewal time (we know they will or let the partner domain go too). This is a pathetic charade.

 

[Admin]

Thanks everyone for your feedback and comments. The intention of the promotion is to try and raise awareness amongst rights holders prior to June 2019. It doesn't appear from the thread that there is a massive amount of interest in us providing a bulk registration tool for portfolio holders and it's been very helpful to hear your views so thanks

All the best
Leanne

Hello @[email protected]
I think you have come to that conclusion a little too quickly, I, for example, have only just read this thread. To bulk register the .UK counterparts of our self-managed portfolios is, of course, a very desirable feature and I can see that without it I simply wouldn't register them, it would be prohibitively time intensive. So, yes do it because you want .uk not to fail and this is one way you can try and increase your chance of success. I feel the need to say that this is not an OFFER. We have 2 more years not to register them anyway, we gain nothing. If you take .uk seriously then increase the number of free years of registration, you need to help us help you. The bulk registration option is essential if you want success. Otherwise, I will wait 2 years and cherry pick a few that I have time to create. You have the chance here to help .uk prosper.

 

[grandwizard]

It will never be established. It won't stop them using figures for free registrations though to claim how successful, wonderful, and wanted the unnecessary extension was. It will also enable them to then raise the price and stiff any poor sods who believe the hype and are then forced into registering a second extension at a later date to avoid splitting their brand. .uk is crap, it serves no purpose at all - this is why they are talking about offering 'free' registrations. They know nobody wants it and they're petrified by the declining numbers and, come registration time, of their paymaster realising how much they are taking for doing nothing and potentially throwing them off the gravy train. Surely it would be better just to copy and register for everyone using the details of the ROR domain but don't set any nameservers? People can always not renew come renewal time (we know they will or let the partner domain go too). This is a pathetic charade.

Fantastic Analysis.

 

[scottmccloud]

Does anyone else think that there's the potential for a lot of fraud with .co.uk and .uk running concurrently? It's ripe for phishing and other fraud if businesses don't take up their .uk rights. Fingers may get pointed at Nominet for allowing the situation to happen in the first place.

 

[grandwizard]

Does anyone else think that there's the potential for a lot of fraud with .co.uk and .uk running concurrently? It's ripe for phishing and other fraud if businesses don't take up their .uk rights. Fingers may get pointed at Nominet for allowing the situation to happen in the first place.

I will Borrow a vocabulary from Trump, There is "Tremendous" Potential for Fraud I can think of a few phishing attacks, misdirected email, scams, cyber-squatting , but they promoted .uk as more secure lol they just made things less secure and added confusion as a bonus and the cheek of it they want to be paid and profit for doing so. Only in the UK.

 

[keys]

Does anyone else think that there's the potential for a lot of fraud with .co.uk and .uk running concurrently? It's ripe for phishing and other fraud if businesses don't take up their .uk rights. Fingers may get pointed at Nominet for allowing the situation to happen in the first place.

Confusion is inevitable. It already happens with people believing that domain contact pages are a way to get in touch with businesses using a similar name. It seems that the improved DQ initiative was just for PR. Addresses may be checked but any made up name or entity will do, with no connection to the address. I think that offers scope for malicious behaviour.

 

[bulkcorn]

The earlier we all get used to .uk, the better. It is here to stay .... and it is three characters shorter. It will take time but it is the future. My new dos are on .uk! I was - and still am - of the view that the .uk should automatically be paired with .co.uk at no cost.

 

[Edwin]

.uk should not have been introduced, for a wealth of good reasons. Many many people (including me) were extremely vocal about that, both on the record and privately with Nominet. It was a pitched battle, lasting years, and Nominet burnt up most of their credibility with a lot of folk along the way.

But it happened anyway. And now we're stuck with it. Sucks for sure, but there we are. Just another bit of sand being kicked in our faces by life...

Nominet are never going to un-introduce it, not with over half a million registrations. That's obvious if you look at the situation rationally and dispassionately. The PR hurricane that would kick off would make the one around the introduction of .uk look like a light breeze.

So the only things that might change are its future cost (registration/renewal) and the June 2019 cut-off date. Whether either of these will change beyond the promotion currently being discussed on this thread is an unknown unknown. But they remain the only two conceivable changes.

That is not to say you shouldn't be angry about its introduction. I'm still furious, as anyone who is on the Nominet Member forum will know first-hand. (That's also why I don't see myself ever going to another Nominet event.) But getting angry unfortunately can't and won't change its very existence, no matter how desperately I might wish it to.

That is also not to say you should become a cheerleader for the extension, or even take it up. That's up to you. But regardless of whether you do or not, Nominet won't be switching .uk itself off.

Looking at the situation purely from a business perspective, then, you need to at least take that consideration into account even if you end up doing nothing.

 

[willbon]

Way to go off topic guys!...
I think the question was do TAG holders want a tool to do bulk .uk registration of owned .co.uk's...?

The answer is of course 'Yes' because otherwise it'll take forever to do each one manually....

However, I agree with each and every negative sentiment about the launch of .uk - It was a bad idea from the beginning unless the .uk and .co.uk were paired at a single renewal price consistent with current single price. Nominet has a lot to answer for with the way this has been done - I hope that one day it will be held to account for its actions.

 

[RobM]

The answer is 'No' because I think ALL .uk should be automatically registered with the RoR domain, info copied, and no nameservers set, same expiry, and given to the holders (it's not hard to set the same tag and have the handful of major registrars who love you so much automatically add them to the account). Why this pointless bulk registration rubbish?

 

[timter51]

I'd go a step further than Rob and say that the RoR should be indefnite (not just automatically registered), it should stay with the .co.uk for as long as it's registered (then drop seperately, as per norm, whenever that may be). I see absolutely no logical reason for the June '19 cut-off other than a huge pay day for Nominet, and a massive clusterfuck of catchers / investors hoovering up as much as they can. It will line the pockets of Nominet, cause heartache for Joe Bloggs who, even after 4 years, wasn't aware of the situation, and cause a fragmented domain market so much worse than what we are already seeing now. But it ain't gonna change, so whatever.

 

[Rob_F]

Thanks everyone for your feedback and comments. The intention of the promotion is to try and raise awareness amongst rights holders prior to June 2019. It doesn't appear from the thread that there is a massive amount of interest in us providing a bulk registration tool for portfolio holders and it's been very helpful to hear your views so thanks

All the best
Leanne

I'd use it, Leanne, for the reasons aforementioned by Edwin.

P.S. Nice to see someone from from Nominet on here

- Rob

 

[ian]

Let's face it though, Nominet would never have rolled .uk out if it meant 'free indefinite' pairing up with the associated .co.uk etc. Where's the profit for them then to justify this madness.

 

[RobM]

It's not about profit....it's about improving the quality of the namespace and increasing the recognition of the blah blah blah *cough*bullshit*cough*

 

[Edwin]

Nominet have indicated today that a tool will be made available to register domains 300 at a time via the web interface as part of this promotion. That's (literally) three hundred times better than doing them one by one, so great to see!

 

[martin-s]

Blah, blah, blah. Still wish it dead!

 

[ian]

Blah, blah, blah. Still wish it dead!

Nominet or .uk's?

 

[Skinner]

Did anyone notice the request to stop using the ad line about every seconds a new .uk is registered ?

Maybe nominet have noticed the deceleration and this offer is yet another way to effectively "newTLD" inflate the numbers with free regs.

 

[[email protected]]

Hi Everyone

Sorry - I haven't been on to check the thread for a while. Apologies if my previous comment was construed as "we will not provide the bulk tool," it wasn't intended that way. As Edwin flagged (thank you!) we are offering the functionality to bulk register up to 300 domains per time which I hope will help those of you who are interested.

Best wishes
Leanne

 

[Sam]

Nominet have indicated today that a tool will be made available to register domains 300 at a time via the web interface as part of this promotion. That's (literally) three hundred times better than doing them one by one, so great to see!

This is still not ready ?