Ridiculous asking prices!

[websaway]

PM me the name. In total confidence.
If I'm wrong I will say so.

No PM yet, can't be any simpler surely.

 

[foz]

Had someone wanting a .co.uk surname lately, quoted a lot less than described in this thread. Was informed they registered an .org.uk instead. .com owned by Name Admin, so a big number there, no doubt.

 

[websaway]

Had someone wanting a .co.uk surname lately, quoted a lot less than described in this thread. Was informed they registered an .org.uk instead. .com owned by Name Admin, so a big number there, no doubt.

Care to share, pm in confidence.

 

[Adam H]

Care to share, pm in confidence.

I understand your point in wanting to give an informed opinion but realistically how many people actually mention or are happy to disclose potential purchases regardless of value or importance to the end user.

Its very rare in any kind of business you'll find people wanting to openly share information unless they needed to or if they want bragging rights.

Its making you look a bit of a plonker with how persistent you are in trying to extract information from it when he's clearly not keen on disclosing, maybe you think its one of your domains he's talking about and whats being said isnt accurate ? i dont know but thats the only reason i can think of as to why your badgering him so much.

 

[websaway]

I understand your point in wanting to give an informed opinion but realistically how many people actually mention or are happy to disclose potential purchases regardless of value or importance to the end user.

Its very rare in any kind of business you'll find people wanting to openly share information unless they needed to or if they want bragging rights.

Its making you look a bit of a plonker with how persistent you are in trying to extract information from it when he's clearly not keen on disclosing, maybe you think its one of your domains he's talking about and whats being said isnt accurate ? i dont know but thats the only reason i can think of as to why your badgering him so much.

If you appreciate my point in wanting to give "an informed opinion" and you couple that with the fact that the poster posted the day after he joined the forum, you just might then conclude that it would be a good idea for him to disclose the name on this occasion, and so build a little credibility.
If it is a fictitious situation then I need to ask why he posted and who he is.

 

[Adam H]

If you appreciate my point in wanting to give "an informed opinion" and you couple that with the fact that the poster posted the day after he joined the forum, you just might then conclude that it would be a good idea for him to disclose the name on this occasion, and so build a little credibility.
If it is a fictitious situation then I need to ask why he posted and who he is.

What difference does it make, even if it is fictitious it adds a discussion to the forum for people to contribute their views on ( if they want to ) rather than the normal tripe of "post your best tip" kind of threads we get exposed to on a regular basis.

Not everyone signs up to a forum to become apart of the community or even use a forum on a regular basis, they sign up to let off some steam or ask a question from the experts in that field ( you guys ), the response they get in that first thread is what makes them want to become apart of the community..........if you signed up and got that kind of hassle would you stick around ?

Im sure you have good reason, but i personally don't see that as a good one.

 

[websaway]

What difference does it make, even if it is fictitious it adds a discussion to the forum for people to contribute their views on ( if they want to ) rather than the normal tripe of "post your best tip" kind of threads we get exposed to on a regular basis.

Not everyone signs up to a forum to become apart of the community or even use a forum on a regular basis, they sign up to let off some steam or ask a question from the experts in that field ( you guys ), the response they get in that first thread is what makes them want to become apart of the community..........if you signed up and got that kind of hassle would you stick around ?

Im sure you have good reason, but i personally don't see that as a good one.

That's ok for you but for me I want to know whether or not the given situation is true or fictitious in order to assess what effort to apply.
If it's fictitious I apply no effort I simply ignore it.
If it's factual I will participate.

 

[bonusmedia]

Well that was 15 minutes I'm not getting back

 

[Philnorris]

LOL. I have not been on this forum for ages. Did not know what i was missing.

Most domainers want top dollar, regardless if the domain has value or not. Fact is someone makes an offer, so the domain has value.

Only two people can estimate the value of that domain. the buyer and seller. Only when it is sold does the domain actually have value, to the buyer.

IF a domain is expected to have value because it is a keyword or whatever, then the sellers expectations are of course higher.

I was selling thousands of domains a year, as many as 50 a day and the lesson i learnt was that if a domain did not have the value, according to keyword, exacts, recent sales etc, then i was better of being realistic and not wasting time on stupid prices. So instead of losing 95% of the bidders i gained 50% to 75% of the bidders. Sales went through the roof, and we made a far greater return on our investment . . .

But a domainer with a few domains is tempted, and who can blame them, they don’t know if the buyer has a big budget and their really is only one way to find out...

So if you bid on a domain, under the circumstance you describe, and the seller comes back with a stupid price, smile and negotiate. All you have to do is convince them you don’t have big pockets Why bother getting upset, everyone does it.

Best tip is to, once the seller cancels, is ask sedo to contact them, they should be clear that you don’t have big pockets. That direct communication ensures both buyer and seller have a greater understanding. this was very successful and does not cost you a penny more.

As for the fictitious or true part, who cares, it is an interesting read, and raises some great points for discussion.

 

[bluerock]

LOL. I have not been on this forum for ages. Did not know what i was missing.

Most domainers want top dollar, regardless if the domain has value or not. Fact is someone makes an offer, so the domain has value.

Only two people can estimate the value of that domain. the buyer and seller. Only when it is sold does the domain actually have value, to the buyer.

IF a domain is expected to have value because it is a keyword or whatever, then the sellers expectations are of course higher.

I was selling thousands of domains a year, as many as 50 a day and the lesson i learnt was that if a domain did not have the value, according to keyword, exacts, recent sales etc, then i was better of being realistic and not wasting time on stupid prices. So instead of losing 95% of the bidders i gained 50% to 75% of the bidders. Sales went through the roof, and we made a far greater return on our investment . . .

But a domainer with a few domains is tempted, and who can blame them, they don’t know if the buyer has a big budget and their really is only one way to find out...

So if you bid on a domain, under the circumstance you describe, and the seller comes back with a stupid price, smile and negotiate. All you have to do is convince them you don’t have big pockets Why bother getting upset, everyone does it.

Best tip is to, once the seller cancels, is ask sedo to contact them, they should be clear that you don’t have big pockets. That direct communication ensures both buyer and seller have a greater understanding. this was very successful and does not cost you a penny more.

As for the fictitious or true part, who cares, it is an interesting read, and raises some great points for discussion.

Great advice

 

[websaway]

Hi Phil
Impressed by your post and most is very beneficial advice.

Can't agree with your last comment, for people who attend the forum regularly, I feel it's important that posts which are fabricated should not purport to be factual.

If someone wants to introduce a" what if situation" then that's fine, but not a, look this is what happened, when it clearly didn't.

 

[Philnorris]

If someone wants to introduce a" what if situation" then that's fine, but not a, look this is what happened, when it clearly didn't.

With the greatest respect to you, unless i am mistaken, this is your opinion of the situation. If the OP is telling porkie pies it still brings up a valid situation that occurs every day. Ridiculous asking prices and why this is so common with sellers.

We should not assume he is a liar and why should he feel forced to prove himself, he only posted a situation, a question. Whether it occured or not is of little consiquence. Well, from a personal perspective, i dont care and choose to beleive. Each to their own.

It is better to believe than to disbelieve; in doing you bring everything to the realm of possibility. - Albert Einstein

 

[disruptive]

As atlas points out... It's about: VOLUME

I own x,xxx's of domains but I only one or two or year. It would be foolish if I sold for a trivial amount as I need to cover the cost of renewals. So that's the model you have, thin volume of transaction and small number of potential buyers tends to want to make people ask for high amounts. They have have extract maximum value out of every domain and I my overheads (renewals) are still the same.

 

[websaway]

With the greatest respect to you, unless i am mistaken, this is your opinion of the situation. If the OP is telling porkie pies it still brings up a valid situation that occurs every day. Ridiculous asking prices and why this is so common with sellers.

We should not assume he is a liar and why should he feel forced to prove himself, he only posted a situation, a question. Whether it occured or not is of little consiquence. Well, from a personal perspective, i dont care and choose to beleive. Each to their own.

It is better to believe than to disbelieve; in doing you bring everything to the realm of possibility. - Albert Einstein

Phil
I don't think that's what Einstein was getting at, but anyway.

When you are a frequent participant on the forum you get to know when a situation is real, or, invented to suit the posters objective.
The poster had joined the forum the day before he posted, there is no question that the facts are not accurate.

He asks

quote
"So, is this something you guys do intentionally? Or do you genuinely believe the prices you quote?"
unquote

He's referring to a situation that doesn't even exist.

 

[websaway]

I can't currently see how the section you have quoted unmasks him as a writer of fiction.


(from iPhone)

You don't have to agree with me but I believe it is a fictional situation.

That being the case, he is asking, do the people on the forum do something intentionally, a something which factually does not exist.

 

[websaway]

What does "factually not exist"? Perhaps it was just the way he phrased his post.


(from iPhone)

I believe the situation he documents , in the way he has detailed it, simply did not happen.

Full stop.

 

[websaway]

I know that. So it's just "belief" and the "factually does not exist" part isn't actually fact?


(from iPhone)

Just my opinion.

 

[foz]

I was selling thousands of domains a year, as many as 50 a day and the lesson i learnt was that if a domain did not have the value, according to keyword, exacts, recent sales etc, then i was better of being realistic and not wasting time on stupid prices. So instead of losing 95% of the bidders i gained 50% to 75% of the bidders. Sales went through the roof, and we made a far greater return on our investment . . .

Interesting post, Phil. How many domains under management?

 

[Philnorris]

Interesting post, Phil. How many domains under management?

Used to work for DomCollect, heading up the sales team. 200,000 domains