Transcom.uk RDAP result discrepancy

[webber]

Which code are are you referring to here?

The code that generates the drop list file. The domain should not have been included in the file.

Sounds like their database query that generates the droplist only validates the date, not the time too.

 

[Transcom ISP]

Its in with Nominet now, think they have realised the issue too, will wait and see what / how they answer

Thanks
Bill

 

[super-whois]

The code that generates the drop list file. The domain should not have been included in the file.

I disagree, the file was generated at 03:01 on the 9th, at that point in time, the domain was in a state where it would have dropped.

The domain had not been renewed until later that day.

 

[webber]

Ah, I stand corrected. I thought the drop list file only includes domains that will drop (ie Pending Delete Grace Period)
I don't use the droplist file personally, hence my confusion; I rely on domain:check myself.

 

[Transcom ISP]

In simple terms (I dont use the droplist either)

The '9th March 2023 EPP domaincheck' reported DROP (not may drop) as

<domain:reason>drop 2023-03-14T20:07:22Z</domain:reason> ie. tomorrow, no renew permitted

but never the less, has been renewed, before the drop date/time

and currenly still shows 'Lifecycle status renew period'

 

[super-whois]

a DRS?

Looks like I was correct:
https://secure.nominet.org.uk/drs/search-disputes.html

CASE NO.: D00025512
DECISION DATE: 06/04/2023
COMPLAINANT(S): Quick Loans Ltd
DOMAIN NAME(S): quickquid.co.uk
Summary Decision: Transfer

 

[Transcom ISP]

Thanks, yep, had to modify the code a little bit to counter for these issues, all fine now.

 

[webber]

Looks like I was correct:
https://secure.nominet.org.uk/drs/search-disputes.html

CASE NO.: D00025512

£250 for a £xx,xxx domain!?
Borderline RDNH if you ask me...
If this method is proven to work then we should all start making DRS claims for dropping domains

 

[isurveyor]

This is a v odd drs result. I can only assume the previous owner simply did not respond...

 

[ukbackorder]

So nominet decided the domain should be awarded to Casheuronet UK (as they had/have trademarks) in 2012 but then decided 11 years later that they should give it to someone else (who doesn't have trademarks)? Am I missing something here?
Is this telling us all to take out DRS against anyone holding a domain we'd like and we can have it if they don't respond?

*EDIT Actually seems I can't read - it was quidquid in 2012 so this is a different domain. However it still doesn't make much sense.

 

[dee]

didn't this have a 10k pre bid if memory is right ? on DL

 

[ukbackorder]

I've told my mum. She's 80 but she'll sort them out!

 

[webber]

Is this something the UKRAC can raise and look into?

Definitely not individual cases, maybe the policy regrading the DRS
To be honest I'm not entirely sure this would be within the UKRAC remit, it is not something we've ever discussed.

As a registrant of a few thousand domains I am concerned by the ease with which someone can win a claim.
I'm not just talking about this particular case, there have been a few recently that have raised eyebrows (OVS or Flora come to mind).

 

[ukbackorder]

I have mentioned it on the community forum but I doubt it's something that nominet will address publicly.

 

[armistice]

hmmmm
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/09619094/officers

 

[KarlM]

Clever move and not the first time it has been used I would guess.

Guess there is a high chance the liquidators will not respond to a DRS complaint.

 

[bluerock]

Would be interesting to see what happens when two simultaneous and opportunistic DRS's are received. Probably not happened before but at £250 a pop it's worth a punt.

 

[webber]

Would be interesting to see what happens when two simultaneous and opportunistic DRS's are received.

Well, read on D00025766 it gets interesting

Also, @Admin where is this thread gone?

there have been a few recently that have raised eyebrows (OVS or Flora come to mind)

https://web.archive.org/web/2021041.../threads/flora-full-decision-transfer.171056/