Prenoms 5th Sept

[jonno]

One was cancelled and then caught within 2 seconds.

i don't see how you can proove this fact?

Are you sure you dont mean it was caught within 2 seconds of you detecting it?

 

[retired_member11]

i don't see how you can proove this fact?

Are you sure you dont mean it was caught within 2 seconds of you detecting it?

No, I don't mean that.

The fact slipped out in a conversation I had earleir today with the pre nom team - "within two seconds".

 

[retired member 1]

Prenom team?...what happens when they've all gone, are they out of a Job?

 

[retired_member11]

The name in question was caught because, as we all know, the randomiser isn't random. The timing of the drop of this domain was known because the time of the drop of the domain that dropped before it was observed and noted. The drop sequence is like a domino effect. When the first one goes the timing of the rest can be calculated quite accurately - within two seconds. I guarantee that the first domain of any pre nom drop batch is almost never caught by the top dogs. That first name dog is a puppy. The rest....

 

[retired member 1]

The name in question was caught because, as we all know, the randomiser isn't random. The timing of the drop of this domain was known because the time of the drop of the domain that dropped before it was observed and noted. The drop sequence is like a domino effect. When the first one goes the timing of the rest can be calculated quite accurately - within two seconds. I guarantee that the first domain of any pre nom drop batch is almost never caught by the top dogs. That first name dog is a puppy. The rest....

If this is so and you know of this "Pattern" then how come you haven't cleaned up yesterday?...just fire 200 automatons when it's going to drop if you know when it will?!?!

 

[retired_member11]

If this is so and you know of this "Pattern" then how come you haven't cleaned up yesterday?...just fire 200 automatons when it's going to drop if you know when it will?!?!

To know the pattern you need a big data set. Know you of where one is to be found? Not in Newark is it?

 

[retired_member11]

...or, an inside job.

 

[jonno]

...or, an inside job.

wouldn't suprise me...

 

[Slater]

There must be some sort on sequence to name drops that the top catchers have identified, I would doubt it would be as simple as just a set number of seconds between each drop.

This pattern must also repeat during normal drops as the top prenom catcher also also catches virtually all the high traffic domain names which drop on a daily basis.

 

[jonno]

This pattern must also repeat during normal drops as the top prenom catcher also also catches virtually all the high traffic domain names which drop on a daily basis.

here we go again... point finger time again...

 

[retired member 1]

To know the pattern you need a big data set. Know you of where one is to be found? Not in Newark is it?

Dunno, I haven't been to Newark in a long time, worth a try.

I don't know about all of that, our DAC customers seemed to do ok yesterday without any kind of timing addition etc (One of them was a top 3 catch IMO), I don't see why you need a big data set to work out timing...just monitor 5-6 names, note drop time find the multiplyer.

I'm sure people will give up droptimes for you if you asked them nicely.

 

[Slater]

here we go again... point finger time again...

Just pointing out that a pattern must have been identified, not saying this is in anyway cheating, I would like Nominet to update their randomizer code to once again level the playing field until next time it is cracked .

 

[retired_member11]

Dunno, I haven't been to Newark in a long time, worth a try.

I don't know about all of that, our DAC customers seemed to do ok yesterday without any kind of timing addition etc (One of them was a top 3 catch IMO), I don't see why you need a big data set to work out timing...just monitor 5-6 names, note drop time find the multiplyer.

I'm sure people will give up droptimes for you if you asked them nicely.

False contact details then? ;-)

Are you more of a Blidworth/ Farnsfield man?

 

[retired member 1]

False contact details then? ;-)

Are you more of a Blidworth/ Farnsfield man?

Oh yes, i'm all about the false contact details....i'm actually just situated off Arno Vale Road, NG5 at the moment....that's where the BIG datasets are found.

 

[retired_member11]

Oh yes, i'm all about the false contact details....i'm actually just situated off Arno Vale Road, NG5 at the moment....that's where the BIG datasets are found.

Reaaallly! Small world!!

 

[static]

solutions for a small planet.

 

[Jay Daley]

Just pointing out that a pattern must have been identified, not saying this is in anyway cheating, I would like Nominet to update their randomizer code to once again level the playing field until next time it is cracked .

We are going over old ground again. Just because you don't know how someone else has done it, does not mean they have done something impossible, like predict a random number sequence.

No the random code has not been broken. If you are so certain that it can be broken then please send me details, I would be very interested to see them. And no, the catching stats don't count.

I'm sure that there are plenty of ways for someone who puts a lot of thought into it to catch more names than others, without trying to do the impossible. For example, do you apply statistical analysis to look at the data you have, using say normal distributions, fourier curves or even autonomous learning algorithms? Or do you even look at the data at all?

If there is one thing I have learnt doing this job, it is that there will always be someone who has worked out something that nobody else has seen and therefore has the edge. Whoever it is only ever has five minutes of fame, and what a mixed blessing those five minutes are.

 

[static]

I tend to agree.

Success is a combination of the application of tools, analysis, and co-operation ;-)

 

[Paullas]

I tend to agree.
co-operation ;-)

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[static]

............. ..........but true.