One person catching a lot...

[The Ferryman]

Som'e peopl'e eve'n manage'd t'o spel'l hi's nam'e correctl'y!
Bruce

 

[Bailey]

Interesting (from a non catchers point of view)

How these references to 'unfair playing fields' etc keep cropping-up . I've often wondered how the general public would view the current system of 'registration-edge' If it was really public (as in exposed info)

I can just imagine the ol'business dad sitting at home (fairly internet savvy) thinking - Yes, I've Checked Nominet whois (as advised by a mate) and guess what according to Nominets T&C's (yes he then educated himself a bit further) an absolutely brilliant match for 'My business' is due to expire - and be available in 3 months time

Poor ol'soul never understood the drop-catchers access (and why should he ?) When he had seen it taken (he only checked once a week) he's got a business to run after-all. He considered it just bad luck. Then a mate said the same thing happened to him. Strange Shenanigans - going on here thinks both.

We can argue all day long about the systems that Nominet set up to facilitate registrations (and avoid duplicate time requests etc) - but that doesn't mean it should continue as a catchers toy - Yes let Nominet put the dropped names to auction. Even the ol'dad business owner understands 'Market Forces' Tell him someone can Garner the system and he'll want to know how it's being allowed. - Or at least why it's being allowed to continue

 

[websaway]

Interesting (from a non catchers point of view)

How these references to 'unfair playing fields' etc keep cropping-up . I've often wondered how the general public would view the current system of 'registration-edge' If it was really public (as in exposed info)

I can just imagine the ol'business dad sitting at home (fairly internet savvy) thinking - Yes, I've Checked Nominet whois (as advised by a mate) and guess what according to Nominets T&C's (yes he then educated himself a bit further) an absolutely brilliant match for 'My business' is due to expire - and be available in 3 months time

Poor ol'soul never understood the drop-catchers access (and why should he ?) When he had seen it taken (he only checked once a week) he's got a business to run after-all. He considered it just bad luck. Then a mate said the same thing happened to him. Strange Shenanigans - going on here thinks both.

We can argue all day long about the systems that Nominet set up to facilitate registrations (and avoid duplicate time requests etc) - but that doesn't mean it should continue as a catchers toy - Yes let Nominet put the dropped names to auction. Even the ol'dad business owner understands 'Market Forces' Tell him someone can Garner the system and he'll want to know how it's being allowed. - Or at least why it's being allowed to continue

Yes a question of which straw breaks the camels back.

 

[Murray]

Interesting (from a non catchers point of view)

From my past non catchers point of view, I heard about it, learnt about it, paid for domainview membership to look through lists, backordered domains at public catchers, got lucky and sold a domain that paid for my nom membership, got lucky and sold another domain to pay for my years dropsystem hosting..

I think dropcatching has a great entrepreneurial spirit about it and anyone could do it if they really wanted to.

 

[Bailey]

Is it good for the UK space (as in being allowed to continue) I don't think so Murray.

Might help explain the urgency for DOT UK. These things (Admittedly of historical origin) will come back to bite those that allowed them

 

[Bailey]

Could you imagine someone declaring a "sure-fire" way of access to New stock-market releases (Even milliseconds) ahead of declared (limited to about a hundred or so investors who knew)

I accept - it's not early access - but, that's the way it will be read

 

[grantw]

We can argue all day long about the systems that Nominet set up to facilitate registrations (and avoid duplicate time requests etc) - but that doesn't mean it should continue as a catchers toy - Yes let Nominet put the dropped names to auction. Even the ol'dad business owner understands 'Market Forces' Tell him someone can Garner the system and he'll want to know how it's being allowed. - Or at least why it's being allowed to continue

Nominet are probably a couple of weeks away from giving up any control by allowing registrars to take control of their expiring domains. Who know's where that will lead, but in your example above, that ol'business dad will be sat waiting for the domain to drop for 3 months and it never will! He'll then be confused as to why he's got to enter some bidding process on a random registrar site he's never heard of and end up paying way more than the registrar usually charges to register a domain.

'Poor ol'soul' never understood that UK registrars could cherry pick their expiring domains, keep what they wanted and auction off the rest to the highest bidder!

From a Nominet customer experience point of view I don't see the above scenario being any better than what's happening now!

Grant

 

[Bailey]

I do Grant- because the whole process then enters the 'Public Arena'

You should be able to identify the differences.

I will take the time to point out the 'Salient' points should you need. Taking the time to wear many shoes - opens eyes

 

[PoshTiger]

IPoor ol'soul never understood the drop-catchers access (and why should he ?) When he had seen it taken (he only checked once a week) he's got a business to run after-all. He considered it just bad luck. Then a mate said the same thing happened to him. Strange Shenanigans - going on here thinks both.

What a load of emotional twaddle...

Kind of like the poor old soul that wanted the same perfect domain but found it was taken but unused and the seller wanted a fee much more than the reg fee.

As all the good domains are taken - this will be happening far more often...

 

[grantw]

I do Grant- because the whole process then enters the 'Public Arena'

You should be able to identify the differences

The process of the domain being acquired will be as much of a mystery to the public as it is now, there will be no central process as each registrar will be able to choose which domains they keep and what they do with them. If that change goes ahead, Joe Public has even less chance of registering a dropping domain at reg fee than they do now.

The only thing in the public arena is the fact that they have to pay way more than reg fee to acquire it from the new registrant, which is no different than now for decent domains.

Don't get me wrong, I'd actually be up for very public auctions as I think it may well educate the public about the value of a domain but personally I think Nominet should have just taken control of it all. Can anyone imagine the mess 1&1 are going to get into dealing with expiring domains, they struggle to accept an incoming TAG change!

Grant

 

[Bailey]

I've no-problem with your equally emotive response either PoshTiger . We live in an internet savvy society. But, that Doesn't mean they equally understand how to 'Garner the System'

 

[Bailey]

personally I think Nominet should have just taken control of it all. Can anyone imagine the mess 1&1 are going to get into dealing with expiring domains, they struggle to accept an incoming TAG change!

Grant

I agree with you a 100% - I guess what has been seen as the Gtld model (which lets face it does work) has been seen as a 'fix'

 

[anthony]

All got an interested eye on who catches LLT then?

 

[Skinner]

Be more interesting if Denys gets a hat trick in 1 day

 

[arkvard]

All got an interested eye on who catches LLT then?

Guess who caught that one then

 

[Retired_Member42]

Damn that boy is on fire.

 

[Murray]

Anyone any closer to figuring out a reasonable theory on how he has raced so far ahead of the rest of the pack?.

 

[timter51]

Do we know to what degree Nominet drop domains in terms of timing? On the minute? On the second? On a particular fraction of a second? Or is it genuinely completely random? I'm guessing we can't tell, because all our logs will only show our particular polling. I'm guessing most drop catchers just run at 5 hits a second, not actually thinking about timing, the script just starts when it starts. If domains drop on Nominets system actually smack on the second, Denys could be setting his scripts to query the earliest possible millisecond after. "Intrinsic accuracy" and all that.

 

[PoshTiger]

I was going for 0z.co.uk today.. already used my quota up.

I caught 6c.co.uk at around 3 minutes past midnight so was thinking it would drop early.


I was wrong..

 

[PoshTiger]

gah - just noticed that 0z.co.uk is dropping tomorrow!!

I've done that about 5 times - I wish the DL droplist started on the correct day.

I'm used to DV which opens on the current day so most of the time I don't even check...