MeetDomainers Live Auction

[JamesTuplin]

yes barry but this event is a domainers event and as you know from comments on here domainers want rock bottom trade prices so if you dont get good offers on here im dam sure you wont get them at a domain event full of 90% domainers.

I think Paullas has hit the nail on the head with this. The reason for the domains being priced as they are is due to the fact that it is a "domainers event".

Whilst I appreciate many of you would have liked to have seen numerous domains priced over 50k GBP, from experience these domains are unlikely to sell. Rather than have an inventory of "pretty" names that wont sell. The aim here is to have reasonably priced domains that WILL indeed sell.

How many end users do you know, before you call them, that are clued up on domains? Now compare that to the US market.......


@ Barry, yes gold.co.uk is a nice domain, however there are plenty of other domains for sale of equal quality. I cant just favour 1 persons names and drop the commission to suit yourself, I have to be fair with everyone. If other people are paying the 15%, then why should you be different?

If you would prefer Gold.co.uk to be "in room" ONLY we can negotiate the commission, however if you are looking for me to contact end users before hand and also stream this auction live and include it, then there are costs both for my time and comission costs we are having to pay ourselves to make this live. Hence the extra 5%.

lol, Chef Patrick here i come

Good luck!

That's makes it impossible in my opinion for people like James to put together an auction that everybody would say wow at. However i think he should be appluaded for keeping it real, unlike Sedo who claim to be selling things like sex.com when all the figures show it's purely a PR stunt.

Thanks Graeme.
I guess I cannot please anyone, its impossible. It is also true what you say that many people are holding the more premium generics and dont want to sell them. 90% of these people I know, they too are paying bargain basement prices. Whilst there is nothing wrong with this it is the same people that are looking to put similar domains in the auction for "End user" prices.

@ TY

I'll be pretty surprised if many of these names sell as a lot of them are poor quality & overpriced re reserves IMO, and I also think it's a shame that the centrepiece auction at a UK focussed event features .co / .co.za / .co.im names - it makes it look like the UK market is dead when it pretty clearly isn't

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Meetdomainers is a European domain event. Many attendees that are due to attend are NOT from the UK. There are also a high proportion coming from the states. .co.uk doesnt rule the internet, it would benefit many to take a look at this auction list again and see past the TLD and look at the investment opportunities.

I also strongly disagree the reserves are unrealistic or poor. Of course not everything will sell, I dont expect it too. However I am sure a large percentage will. Hence the pricing, so that everyone in the room can afford to take at least 1 domain home.

Whilst I too favour the .uk extension many do not, due to the importance to a business to also own the .com if trading internationally. Germans just use .de, Dutch just .nl, South Africans, .co.za. The .com is not so important in other countries.

 

[mally]

I've managed to get the Thursday night available. Is anyone staying in the Hilton on Thursday 26th August? Anyone want to meet up? I'm travelling down from Newcastle so will need to come down the day before..

 

[mally]

I've managed to get the Thursday night available. Is anyone staying in the Hilton on Thursday 26th August? Anyone want to meet up? I'm travelling down from Newcastle so will need to come down the day before..

agh just seen this

August 26th 2010 (Thursday)

7:00 PM – Late Pre-Conference Get together
Complimentary drinks in the hotel lobby bar provided courtesy of NameDrive.

 

[rob]

I've managed to get the Thursday night available. Is anyone staying in the Hilton on Thursday 26th August? Anyone want to meet up? I'm travelling down from Newcastle so will need to come down the day before..

Yup will be there can have that chat we missed in ed the other month

 

[redbird]

I'll be there sometime late thursday afternoon

 

[julian]

just looked at that auction detail is a complete pile of shite - who set those reserves?

 

[JamesTuplin]

@ Julian
As they say..... You cant please everyone. Perhaps wait until AFTER the auction, then feel free to jump in the ring and have your say.

@ Everyone. I will arrive at around 1pm on Thursday. Anyone else getting there that early? If so we can have a few mid day drinks.

 

[SF]

I am comming, i need a room thou at hilton?

 

[SF]

Looking forward to Edwins speach

 

[JamesTuplin]

@ DB
I dont see you registered for the event.

 

[sc2009]

Myself and a colleague will be staying at the Hilton Thursday and Friday night.

Would like to meet up with fellow Acorns for domain chat and a few drinks

 

[JamesTuplin]

People registered for the event have a cocktail party @ 7pm on Thursday with complimentary drinks.
You should spot all the Acorn members there as well as all guys from the US.

 

[BG]

MeetDomainers - Pile of sh*t

just looked at that auction detail is a complete pile of shite - who set those reserves?

Dont hold back Julian say it how it is, lmao, quality... and their was me trying to be diplomatic and nicey nicey without saying such words as crap, rubbish, killing the uk domain market, embarrassing etc etc - Then you come along with the classic " Pile of Sh*t comment, so raw, lol..

I personally think a UK based Domain Auction should be showcasing the best of what the UK has to offer, but hey that's just my thoughts.. ohhh and Ty's, Greywing's, Whois-search, Paullas's, and Julian's (anyone else???)

Whilst I appreciate many of you would have liked to have seen numerous domains priced over 50k GBP, from experience these domains are unlikely to sell. Rather than have an inventory of "pretty" names that wont sell. The aim here is to have reasonably priced domains that WILL indeed sell.

I think that comment is totally defeatist and most likey why you have only sold 135,000 EUROS in the last 2 events which meetdomainers has held....

This was a good chance for you guys to create a buzz in the UK Market but i feel you have missed the boat sales wise, saying that I think you'll have a great p*ss up with a great bunch of guys (The Acorner's) - yet nothing really to shout about regarding sales etc, which is a shame...

Barry

 

[JamesTuplin]

This was a good chance for you guys to create a buzz in the UK Market but i feel you have missed the boat sales wise

How about this then Barry. I list "1" domain of your choice at 10% commission if you are so sure it will sell.
This domain should be priced above 15,000 GBP. Meaning it should be the most "premium" domain at the show.

If the domain does not sell you donate 5% of the listed sales price to a charity of my choice?

You really must understand that this is a domainers Auction, priced so that everyone can be involved.

I think that comment is totally defeatist and most likey why you have only sold 135,000 EUROS in the last 2 events which meetdomainers has held....

Which were nothing to do with NameDrive.

 

[retired_member13]

I have to admit, I understand that there are two sides to every story, but my comments about the auction event were based on facts such as this:

The following lots are included in the auction with the reserve prices next to them:

apartmentrentals.im & apartmentrentals.co.im £200
propertyrentals.im & propertyrentals.co.im £200
holidayhomes.co.im £100
holidays.co.im £100
carhire.co.im £100
cheaphotels.co.im £100
flights.co.im £100

For anyone who's not aware .im and .co.im are both Isle of Man domains (which cost £40 per year) - and I guess that they are being sold on the strength of their keywords?

So there are 7 .co.im domain lots with reserves of £100 and up listed in the auction of 45 lots overall .....

As it currently stands Money.co.im, Diamonds.co.im and Mortgages.co.im are all free to register (as is almost every other top keyword in .co.im), which I think shows the decision to include the above .co.im names in a UK auction with reserve prices to be a bit odd.

TBH I find it difficult to see how an experienced domainer wouldn't think that the selection of these names was a bit strange personally...

 

[BG]

T.R.A.F.F.I.C Dublin...

Hi James,

I really wanted to keep the name listed within the UK Market and tried my best to get you guys to agree the 10% commission, unfortunately I'm unable to list it now as I was approached direct from Rick Latona who has now taken it under his wing for the T.R.A.F.F.I.C event in Dublin on the 24/25th of this month and now advertising it on his home page and here: http://www.ricklatona.com/2010/08/1...d-off-at-t-r-a-f-f-i-c-dublin-on-august-25th/

I will PM you separately outside the thread regarding other names if you're interested in listing those?

Barry

 

[JamesTuplin]

Hi Ty,
Whilst I appreciate your concerns, these domains were added just to start the Auction off. Again, because they are domains that anyone can afford.

I remember people thinking it was odd to have a .co.za domains in the traffic auctions, those domains fly.co.za sold @ $65,000 and porn.co.za @ $45,000 . They may sell, they may not. But you cannot argue that they are affordable keyword rich domains.

I will ensure that by the end of the year NameDrive will feature a premium UK auction with higher reserves and higher quality domains, but again, I must state that the object here was not to sell every domain for 50k upwards, but to make the auction available to all.

 

[JamesTuplin]

I really wanted to keep the name listed within the UK Market and tried my best to get you guys to agree the 10% commission

I agree, if you do:

You list "1" domain of your choice at 10% commission if you are so sure it will sell.
This domain should be priced above 15,000 GBP. Meaning it should be the most "premium" domain at the show.

If the domain does not sell you donate 5% of the listed sales price to a charity of my choice?

 

[BG]

I agree, if you do:

You list "1" domain of your choice at 10% commission if you are so sure it will sell.
This domain should be priced above 15,000 GBP. Meaning it should be the most "premium" domain at the show.

If the domain does not sell you donate 5% of the listed sales price to a charity of my choice?

Hi James,

I would be agreeing to that offer all day long if i knew the right people were in the room, but as you said on a number of occassions within this thread " its just for domainers ", and if people are struggling on acorn to get above £10k prices at zero % acorndomain commission prices, then why would i want to pay 5% if the name didnt sell, I'm not that crazy, lol, albeit some would argue otherwise

Lets just say 10% commission and ill fire over some names for you to play with, if they sell the sell, if they dont heyhoo you buy me a drink

Barry

 

[Whois-Search]

Give James a break(s).com

I personally think a UK based Domain Auction should be showcasing the best of what the UK has to offer, but hey that's just my thoughts.. ohhh and Ty's, Greywing's, Whois-search, Paullas's, and Julian's (anyone else???)

I'll be honest with you though Barry...

Even if gold.co.uk etc were in the auction they wouldn't sell for the price you want for it. How many acorners do you know with a spare million dollars? Fair enough it would raise the profile of the auction and be good PR for the UK secondary market, however the media would then be watching to see if it sold?

You may be lucky and sell it to one of the mega rich guys in Dublin, however I doubt it is going to happen in Manchester. You would do far better to develop those names fully and find an end user to sell them to?

In my opinion James has the right idea behind the auction list (listing them so everyone has something they can afford) however some of the reserves and extensions are not very realistic - but we will see what happens on the day.

That said I think Namedrive do deserve credit for what they are trying to achieve and getting us all together in the first place - our feedback and bids will no doubt make the next event even better.